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Old 02-25-2013, 03:12 PM   #27
JerryH
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Originally Posted by damasovi View Post
I like your style man! I am under 200 lbs with all the gear.
I think the Vstar has like 31 hp vs 33 from the KLR and the vstar weight more, about 80-100 lbs, right? and confort.. ok I have not riden the v-star but have seen many people enjoy it, and I really enjoy the KLR up to hour 10 then it gets to be too much, but after 10 hours on the bike, is there a bike that let's you ride better? and I am thinking being fit goes a lot longer than been a couch potato (like me)

Thanks for the info, I do appreciate it!

Wow a BMW for around $6K? that would be nice, but the seat would be an issue? would have to check.

I remember sitting on a 1800 vtx and it was not for me, to big, expensive and too heavy, it was wrong almost like a GSA...

Thanks

Damasovi
The VTX1800 is just too big and heavy, and does not have such great performance. If you are going to ride on nothing but long straight roads with a high speed limit all day, it's fine (other than the mileage) None of the big cruisers make nearly as much power as you would think. Used to be the top of the cruiser displacement scale was 1500cc, and my Vulcan 750 would outrun them all. The stock Suzuki Intruder 800 would easily outrun the 1400. Bigger does not always mean faster, at least not enough to matter. If you want a performance cruiser, consider the Honda Valkyrie. It's big, but has a 1500cc SIX cylinder engine instead of a huge lumbering v-twin. It is basically a cruiser version of the Goldwing. The 1500 Goldwing btw is a LOT faster, more comfortable, and handles better than any of the mega cruisers. Actually check out the specs and 1/4 mile times on some cruisers. You will be surprised at how little difference size makes. One place size (and weight) do show up is in a parking lot, or around town. Those beasts are just non fun at all in slow speed maneuvers. And they are definitely not for dirt or gravel roads. And belt drives, as nice as they are on the street, do get torn up fairly quickly by gravel.


I have sit on a cruiser (750cc) for over 1000 miles, only getting off a couple of times for a few minutes, without any real pain. I had a lot more gas stops, but I just pulled up to the pump, stuck my card in, and filled it up without getting off. I did have a riders backrest, which makes all the difference on long rides. You can also strap a duffle bag or sleeping bag to the passenger seat if riding solo for the same thing. Something for back support. On a cruiser, if your legs start to hurt after a while, switch to the passenger pegs for a change of position. That helps a lot, and is always something I do on long rides. I even left the passenger pegs on my XT225, which at my size is completely incapable of carrying a passenger, just so I could use them on longer road rides.

Sadly the new breed of cruisers are just not as good as the older ones comfortwise. My Vulcan 750 is a 1985 design. Other great older cruisers are the twin shock Virago 750 and 1100 models, the Suzuki Intruder 800 and 1400 (despite it's displacement, the original 1400 is not a huge heavy bike like the VTX1800) and the Honda Shadow 1100 Spirit. The Honda VLX600 is also very comfortable, though it may actually be too small. And as someone mentioned, the Triumph America and Speedmaster are decent cruisers. And while I don't like them as much as the older ones, I don't think I would have any issues with any of the modern cruisers up to 950cc. I always go for cruisers with higher bars. Some modern cruisers have what are called "beach" bars, which are too low and too wide to be comfortable. The whole concept of a cruiser as far as comfort goes is NOT having to lean forward. My Vulcan has the most comfortable bars of any cruiser I've ever had. Most cruisers have standard bars which can be changed, though that can involve changing hoses and cables and doing rewiring depending on how big the change is.

I am not exactly a couch potato, though I do spend to much time sitting at my desk on the computer, but I am absolutely not one of those fitness types that go to the gym every day. And I have fairly severe arthritis and fibromyalgia, and am still comfortable on a cruiser or scooter.

A cruiser should feel a lot like your scooter. You sit upright, feet in front like sitting in a chair, and you should be able to reach the bars while still having plenty of bend in your elbows. That's the basic cruiser riding position. From there it is just a matter of finding the one with the best fit for you.


Honda VTX1800:
1/4 mile 12.1 sec
top speed 134 mph
hp 95
weight 774 lbs


Kawasaki VN750:
1/4 mile 13.2 sec
top speed 120
hp 68
weight 483 lbs

Within a second in the 1/4 mile, top speed over 100 does not matter with a cruiser, neither does actual hp, it's performance that counts. But look at the big difference. VTX1800 is almost 300 pounds heavier. With me on it, thats almost exactly HALF A TON

Oh, and for those who like comfort, but not the cruiser look, check out the new Honda CTX700.
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