Originally Posted by Unstable Rider
Did you say what each one actually weighs?
It will be good to see em on your bike.
Well, without having a scale to weigh them, I can tell you the entire BOX when shipped that included the bags and three catalogs weighed in at 6lbs by USPS. So, I'd say a rough estimate they're are about 2lbs apiece? And that is probably generous. Then again, so was the six pounds.
Originally Posted by MightyMouse
I may be way off base here since I haven't seen these bags in person, but from looking at the pics, they just look CHEAP to me. They don't look like they are made out of the quality PVC-coated nylon or PVC-coated polyester that real whitewater river-running dry bags are made out of. I'm used to the quality of river dry bags made by Sotar, NRS, and Jacks Plastic Welding. They also look like they are assembled without attention to detail on the seams and patches where the straps are attached. It looks like the cut edges of the material will fray because they are not fully glued down. The main straps also look narrow and cheap.
Up until this year, I have used a Dry Duffel that I purchased at a Outdoor Shop in Halifax over three years ago. This bag was 35L range and I paid around $95 for it. It was made by Chilkoot Technical Outdoor Gear. Comparing the fabric weigh of these two bags, the weight of the Nelson Riggs are MUCH heavier. Not having any experience with the products you mentioned, I can not offer a fully formed opinion or comparison for your statement.
From the Nelson Rigg Website:
- Electronically heat welded seams makes this bag 100% waterproof
- Air tight roll closure ensures no water enters the bag
- Made from waterproof and durable tarpaulin PVC
- Coated outer material prevents slipping or marking
- Firm internal back plate helps support bag
- Heavy duty top straps can mount directly to most factory and aftermarket saddlebag racks and grab rails
- Securely mount using wide VelcroŽ straps and quick release buckles
- Strong D-rings allow more Survivor bags to be attached
- Compression straps easily adjust to volume of content
Without having tested them on the bike as yet, or filled them with anything, I can tell you they are not a lightweight PVC. I would consider them quite heavy-duty compared to paddling bags that I used many years ago. And honestly, with the roll top fully extended the material is thick enough to stand there on its own.
As far as the straps go, the main weight bearing straps that connect the bags are 1 7/8" wide. The straps that act as compression straps top and bottom are 7/8" and the straps that keep them from flapping are 5/8".
All the straps are the same material that was used on other Nelson Rigg products that I have used and had no problem with.
Originally Posted by MightyMouse
Based entirely on pictures, they don't look to be the quality of Wolfman Expedition Dry Saddlebags nor the Ortiebs. The problem with the Wolfman and Orliebs is they are too small for me, so they is why I am interested in the Nelson Riggs.
I feel the same about the Wolfman's and Ortleibs. And compared to some of the Wolfman Products I have had contact with, (and honestly, that's not many and I'm no expert) the weight of the material feels very similar. The other thing that you have to remember too, the Wolfman's are $213 and the Ortleib's are $129.97 per bag, all at Happy-Trail.com. There is a definite price difference, as I have seen the Nelson Rigg's listed at $116 at BikeBandit.com That's about half price compared to the other Vendors.
My plan for next week is this: my duty tour is extended by one day and I am off on Wednesday and Thursday. I'm going to "pack" all the gear that I would take for a 7-10 day trip and carry in saddlebags. It'll give you guys an idea as to capacity and how the packed bags look on the bike.
Personally, I've been very impressed so far by the product. The bags seem very well made and of good weight and thickness. I wanted these based on my previous experience with Nelson Rigg and so far, I am not disappointed.