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Old 08-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #794
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Originally Posted by Jud View Post
I know it's been beat to death but I'll stand by my bitching,,,,, adding an inch or two more travel on both ends and a 19 inch wheel just wouldn't have added a huge amount of money to this bike. I doubt it would add 500$ if Honda did it. I know an additional inch or two of travel and a 19 inch wheel doesn't sound like it would make a huge difference but it really does.

Since his isn't a repli-racer,, the extra travel and the 19 inch wheel wouldn't be a huge detriment on the street. IMO, they would not have lost sales due to the travel, the 19 inch wheel or the 250-500$ more max it woulda cost. IMO, they would have gained some sales from having a pretty decent, low cost alternative to something like the BMW singles and chain driven twins.

If Honda would learn from BMW, the advantages of building multiple bikes off of one bike,,,,,,,,,, they'd do even better. If some on here or Honda really thinks that 500$ would make or break this bike, if the people buying this would just hate it if lost the least little smidge of on tarmac handling due to the extra travel and larger wheel diameter,,,,,,,,, they should off another model that offers those as an additional cost model. I honestly think that might be the best option if people really think 250-500$ would make or break this bike.
This bike IS the result of a three bikes from one platform - remember R, F and X. Only thing is that it is based on a street platform.

There isn't much on this bike that would limit it much in relation to a BMW 700GS or Tiger 800 roadie in terms of light "adventure". I would say the Honda is ready, and would do the same someone can do on a 700GS or the Tiger roadie. Except for the extra power of those other bikes, of course. Yes, a larger front wheel could be good, but it would still not be a spoke wheel, right? So, anyway, you wouldn't do anything radical, so you won't need more suspension travel or a 19 in wheel, right? I would say, go get it and ride it away towards the horizon. It will do fine!

Now, for my version of adventure, which carries a "rally" perspective, the 700GS won't cut it. Neither does the 500X. But it is less expensive to start from the 500X than it is from the BMW. Even the 800GS needs some expensive upgrades to make it a rally bike - and it is heavy and expensive to start with.

By the way, I saw the 500X for the first time today. I like the lightness of it when sitting on it, moving it from side to side, feels very light. Nice. It is "cheap" looking in all respects, though. Which is OK if you plan to ride it rough. You won't feel bad about scratching it, breaking plastic here and there.

Adding one inch height from a 19in wheel + one inch suspension travel front and one inch+ on the back should still keep it reasonable in terms of seat height. Have to check clearance on front end for compression of a revised fork.

Front fender... there is room to go up, and it seems doable to create braces to raise it an inch to accommodate a larger wheel. Having only one disc on front makes it easy to remove the low fender, if one so desires, and add a motocross fender.

Suspension travel, obviously it can be done. I would not add too much travel (perhaps one inch, maybe some more not much). A good suspension component might be more relevant for most uses. Something that the 800GS and the Tiger 800XC do not have!

Wheels, I would suggest spoke wheels with a tubeless setup. Tubeless. a thing one could want to do with the 800GS, for example.

Therefore, it seems it can be done. It will cost to make it right, a lot more than $500, but the result can be a nice rally bike.

But for most people, like it was mentioned earlier here, this bike is ready to go. At the most, change the tires. And it will do very well.
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