It's been over a month now with VM jacket (and occasionally the Santiago pants) and I'm in agreement, there's nothing better that I've found. I've retired the Firstgear mesh jacket, first because the VM jacket is that much better and secondly, it's less likely to melt on pavement as others on Advrider have already mentioned.
As to liner, no. I'll carry rain gear to go over the jacket and pants, but that has limits though. You don't want to ride in temps under 60 degrees F. Get's a little chilly at the beach at night....
Harry Swan screwed with this post 07-11-2006 at 05:24 PM