What to use to clean black chain lube off of aluminum rims easily?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Mambo Danny, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Mambo Danny

    Mambo Danny I cannot abide.

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    22,153
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL
    Obviously I don't want to use an abrasive on aluminum rims to clean them, but I was somewhat shocked that pure strength, then diluted strength to soak, Simple Green didn't really clean much chain lube off of the rear wheel of my DR650.

    I'm no neat freak with the bikes since I ride them at least six days a week, but the one time I've thought "Yeah, maybe I should wash the DR..." it didn't really get clean looking with the goop on the rear wheel, sprocket, etc.

    Should i go buy a little kerosene? Does WD-40 still cut through modern lubes? (I think the spray-can lube I have at home is PJ1 Black Label).
    #1
  2. Offcamber

    Offcamber Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,178
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    I use Simple Green straight without diluting it. Its safe on the rims and is an excellent grease cutter....
    #2
  3. Wlfman

    Wlfman Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Oddometer:
    1,306
    Location:
    TN
    Simple Green
    #3
  4. urbanXJ

    urbanXJ Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,178
    Location:
    Pearland, TX
    WD40 on a rag

    Also, the chain cleaner that you hose off with water seems to works really well.
    #4
  5. CharlestonADV

    CharlestonADV I do my own stunts.

    Joined:
    May 30, 2011
    Oddometer:
    2,466
    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    I've found that Honda aerosol cleaner / wax works most of the time for grease and bugs. For stubborn stuff I spray WD 40 on a rag.
    #5
  6. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2007
    Oddometer:
    14,142
    Location:
    the 'Ha
    Just use a little diesel / kerosene. It'll cut through caked on asphalt and tar, so it will work great on chain lube as well.

    It's cheap and easily obtainable. It won't damage the finish.
    #6
  7. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Oddometer:
    19,879
    Location:
    Begin Op Zoom

    +1
    #7
  8. Mambo Danny

    Mambo Danny I cannot abide.

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    22,153
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL
    Thanks guys.

    I'm either surprised the Simple Green is working for some, as I stated it was pretty useless, or that the chain lubes they use are cut by it when PJ1 Black isn't.
    #8
  9. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Oddometer:
    19,879
    Location:
    Begin Op Zoom
    p.s. STOP using chain lube. There is NO valid reason to spray "Chain lube on a modern O-Ring/ X-Ring chain. NONE.

    Spray a bit of Teflon lube every 400 miles or so to help with the chain to sprocket contact...

    All the "won't fly off" chain lubes trap dirt and destroy the the O-rings, cutting chain life in half (or worse) :deal
    #9
  10. Mambo Danny

    Mambo Danny I cannot abide.

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    22,153
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL
    I'd almost agree with that, but I've seen what the Florida sun does to damage the o-rings on o-ring chains from others' bikes.

    From what i understand, coating o-rings with a proper lube keeps them expanded, flexible, and protected from the sun.
    #10
  11. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,190
    Location:
    Finland-Australia
    I was wondering about that myself, i mean if there is an o ring, the spray wont even reach the joint, which it's supposed to lube:huh
    #11
  12. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,190
    Location:
    Finland-Australia
    Referring to Dakez post
    #12
  13. Mambo Danny

    Mambo Danny I cannot abide.

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    22,153
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL

    I think of it as trying to keep the stock lube in the chain. If one's o-rings are dry, the lube from the inside will migrate in tiny amounts. Lubed o-rings won't draw lube from the insides.

    This may be proven wrong, but in nearly every other application fluids do tend to move to cleaner or dryer areas.
    #13
  14. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Oddometer:
    25,849
    Location:
    South (Dog help me) Bay
    :nod

    polishing compound.:lol3

    I like to use ATF
    #14
  15. crofrog

    crofrog Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,482
    Location:
    Annapolis Maryland
    S-100 works really well too.
    #15
  16. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic Super Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,118
    Location:
    southcentral PA.
    The rollers and side plates are still coming in contact with the sprocket and need some kind of protection from wear which chainlube provides better than teflon or wd40.
    #16
  17. JLAW3000

    JLAW3000 Adventurer

    Joined:
    May 16, 2012
    Oddometer:
    33
    Location:
    Fort Collins
    hydrochloric acid based wheel cleaner.... its what the detail shop I use to work at used. Spray the whole rim, let it sit for about 30 seconds and spray it off.... It will get 20 year old stains off, really is amazing. Don't get it on ANY plastic and DON'T breath it in, nasty stuff.
    #17
  18. Wlfman

    Wlfman Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Oddometer:
    1,306
    Location:
    TN
    WOW I guess my current chain that is sitting at 25K miles on it (and the two prior that each got 20K+) that I use Chain Wax on after every ride would have lasted 50K??? Actually the chain is still fine, just need new sprockets..
    #18
  19. Adios Pantalones

    Adios Pantalones Gordo tonto y contento.

    Joined:
    May 12, 2005
    Oddometer:
    2,331
    Location:
    San Diego, not Mex, but I can smell it from here.
    I like Krud Kutter or simple green used full strength, an automotive wheel brush works the charm. (think big bottle brush)
    I like the acidic wheel cleaners too. Maguires brakedust cleaner is the bomb. pre wet the rim, scrub and rinse promptly. It will etch alum if left to dry.
    #19
  20. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Oddometer:
    10,408
    Location:
    Retired in Pa.
    IF the wheel has good quality paint or a good quality coating, a rag dampened with acetone works wonders and will not harm a well applied finish.
    #20