MOtorrad ADV bike comparo

Some interesting data all in one place - weight, HP...

Basic message - they like a lot of these bikes. For the Tenere engine: "unbreakable". For the Stelvio: "very heavy". NOte the price is not lower for the Guzzi and Tenere than the BMW in Germany. Not the case in US.

Overall they acknowledge there are a lot of good bikes competing in this space. They also acknoweldge that what Harley has done for the chopper culture, BMW had done for the GS - you get to belong to a lifestyle when you buy a GS.

They also note that their long term test Ducati has 50K KM's on the clutch with no issues. They have been sourcing this clutch for the last three years from Japanese OEM FCC. And guess what - this is the exact clutch that is in the new GS.

And based on just this review - the KTM comes in first...

They do not appear to like the Tenere.


My crappy translations:

Motorleistung: Motor power, motor output
Fahrleistungen: road/driving performance (hence the wheel in the air)
Assistenzsysteme: Like it sounds, I guess - assist systems. ABS, traction control, etc
Gewicht: weight
Reichweite: range
Ausstattung: equipment/fittings, looks like gauges/trip computer
Preis: price, obviously
Gesamt: I'd guess something like Gestalt, the whole, overall winner.

Someone who did more than spend a week ordering beer in Vienna can probably do better.


Seems like odd stuff to compare based on, I wonder how the scores were weighted.

What, no Farfegnugen category ?

I think that is meant to be covered by Fahrleistungen

Stelvio last overall...ouchie! :eek1

They say: too heavy, and that technically it compares with the older GS generations. Also they say it is easily damaged when dropped.

Note that on p. 43 (the text in the picture) they say that this report is based on the numbers submitted by the manufacturers and (in the case of KTM and Aprilia) some estimates as well. The actual tests are to follow in March.

given their criteria, it makes sense that the Ducati came in first.....good for the guys from Borno Panigale!

Thank you for that. I was wondering. All the power outputs quoted seem to be as as claimed, at the crank. So they are lining them up, on the numbers. A bit of speculation about how the new KTM and GS will go against the established contenders.

The Stelvio might be a heavy beast, but the quoted weight - 285kg - doesn't sound quite right for the version they have pictured and named, which is the one sold with cast wheels and no extras. And while its tech might look old, it's near the Yam in the power department.

If only I understood German so I could see which bike that I want that they don't sell here!

Thanks for that.

Can anyone determine if there is any mention of off road abilities in the Fahrleistungen segment?

This is a spec sheet comparison, and they even got that wrong (compared weight if a Stelvio NTX but showed standard model).

It is nice to have the specs all in one place, but to declare a "spec sheet" winner seems a bit :huh

-SM

I think it says the KTM came in first, but I might be wrong, again.

Warps my brain that what many consider a 'large trailie', an off the shelf dirt bike (KTM 1190), can pull a 10 second quarter mile and hit 150 miles per hour.

So they rode the spec sheet and came up with a winner? Must be short of topics to write about...

Not the slightest bit surprised that the MG finished last but I am surprised tha new "street" KTM finished first ahead of the Ducati on a strictly pavement comparision.

I didn't post it because of the winner - I posted because I thought it was useful to have the info all in one place...

Don't worry about it. It's winter and it gives us something to compare the bikes with.

You are always going to have those who's bike did not make the grade sad. It hurts their feelings when their "just as good as the those others but it was way cheaper" bikes comes in at the bottom half of the comparision. I'm sure KTM, Ducati and BMW paid them off.