Hi, I got your PM, looks like you will be north of me. If you change your route plan, let me know or PM me your email and I will email you a little illustrated ride guide that will show you what you' ll be missing.
If you get close to Aquismon (between Valles and Xilitla) stop and take a look at Tambaque, a nice little river that comes out of the mountain. Also near is the Sotano de las Golondrinas, but get there early, 7am or so to watch the swallows swarm out, then stick around a little longer for the parrots to do the same. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1194180972822.29872.1177373325&type=1
I will check it out. Thanks for the tip. Now. To send MikeMike's stuff to somebody who can open it. :huh
Heck. It is a PDF. Even I can open a PDF Edit: and it looks professionally done. Slick. Thanks much. :)
You've got mail, Terrap. Hope it comes in handy and you can experience Veracruz WITHOUT that damned Mex #180 coast highway! Do the mountain route, it's better than Viagra.:eek1 Ok, well, sort of...
Thanks for the PM SOG. Check the post in my sig line(s) titled " I ♥ La Sierra Gorda/Lost in the Fat Mountains" . It covers several trips out that way, and a lot of your territory, and mentions hotels and restaurants. You could try the ride I wrote about between Zimapan and San Joaquin, but like sojerd's ride, if it's been raining you might be turned back as you will have to ride right down the riverbed at one point. There's a nice hotel out on the road between jalpan and rio Verde, but I can't recall the name. It's on the right and about 20 miles from jalpan, (I think). In San Joaquin I like a little hotel, and am not sure of the name, but you take the first real left when you're in town, go up the hill, and take the first or second right. It's about a half block up on the right. If no one is there, walk across the street and ask there. You'll probably be checked in by the girl, (can't remember her name), who runs what I consider the best restaurant in town. From the hotel walk up the hill, take the first left, and then an immediate left. It's a couple doors down from the corner. In Xilitla, I stay cheap at the Hotel San Ignacio, though they recently raised the rate from 225 p to 300p/night. I like Puebla Vieja for dinner and cervezas, just off the plaza. The rides Sojerd rec'd between Camargo/Artajea/Xichu are scenic. Gas up before taking the route unless you take the road from Artajea to Santa Catarina. Have fun!
Miguelito. I am getting excited. This data is all coming together quite nicely. Best way around Cd Victoria? I hear we might not want to linger. If any real issues, maybe we'll just skirt it before we get that far south.
Tom , no reason why you should try to avoid Cd Victoria Nothing there to fear and much to look forward to.It is an interesting prosperous city, good hotels and good routes. For instance Mex 101 south out of the city THAT IS a road you Must take - even if you are going to go south farther on Mex 85! Mex 101 leaves the southwest corner of Cd Victoria and winds and climbs up on and over the forested mountains A great bike road! On the downward west side you will come to the junction of a much newer south - bypass fast truck route state highway which you can use to zip back east through the scenic canyon landscape to reconnect with Mex 85 about 20 km south of the city . Well worth the trouble on a nice day. Or you could stay the course on Mex 101 and ride the high desert south through Jaumave, Tula and at that town pick up the state roads east across the mountains to Ocampo and rejoin Mex 85 at Cd Mante or Antiguo Morelos. Mind you the route I describe is VERY DANGEROUS !😉 You will be so tempted and distracted by all the alluring side roads of gravel and pavement that you will be constantly debating which ones you want to explore. You lads may not even reach the outlined blue zone of your maps before you need to head home.😂
Sjoerd. That looks temptafying. Of course, looking at the Guia Roji that little road from Jaumave down to Nicolas Bravo then to Ocampo then to Nuevo Morelos might be something looking at the topo shading. Hey. Might as well Test out the unintentional camping gear. El Naranjo has been on the list from the start and that gets us close.
That Reserva Biosphera el cielo has piqued my interest for a long time. I am gonna put some adv and google-fu on it and see what I can find. I have an older state map which shows some roads across. Hmmmmm.
Brad. Like everything in our lives, this thing changes on the hour. lol thelawnguy81 has talked KTM into some warranty work on some known starter problem so we'll see how that goes. Right now we are looking into the area around Mante for night one. Would love to be near those waterfalls.
Found this old old report from Richard and Milton. http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585626&highlight=aramberri Could make for an interesting detour. Sheesh. We'll never make Tolantongo. :huh
