So we've all heard/seen the 650 xchallenge...let's see your XCOUNTRY!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Olas, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I wouldn't think you'd want to go with new parts. I think you'd be looking for somebody parting out a wrecked bike. The donor parts come from an F650.

    Walter does some talking about doing it on his thread==pages 46 and 47.

    Oh, and by the way, I can't remember my wedding anniversary like most of you guys, but remembering this shit is effortless. Am I weird?
  2. lewiss66

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  3. leafman60

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    Sure, used parts are the obvious choice but very hard to find. I've been looking with no luck. Nobody has a wrecked engine that theyve pulled the alternator from.

    If anyone knows of such, please let me know !
  4. leafman60

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    Yes, some good info on that earlier series of post on the XCh thread.

    I do think one would need to replace BOTH the rotor and the stator. One thing that was mentioned that I had already wondered about is whether the extra weight of the heavier rotor would be felt when revving the motor.

    Also, I'm wondering if a new cover would be necessary to accommodate the bigger rotor.
  5. imeny

    imeny Been here awhile

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    I take off the baffle from the exhaust and it's has the coolest sound in the world but it's very loud!!!
    I will post another video in few days!!:evil
  6. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    Drone - actually I'm 5'10" and 190 lbs, so not that tall! :lol3
    But it really is a subjective thing saying 70% dirt... If you are willing to take it a bit slower (and fork out some cash for upgraded suspension) then the Xco could take most obstacles, but not as well as an XR650 or TE630. I think I'd look at getting one of those discounted '11 TE650 closeouts for $6500 or less if you can still find one. The TE has fuel injection too and if it is close to as perfected as our Xco... Well let's just say the FI is one of my favorite surprises - it is really nice to go from 0 to 12,000 feet with not even a thought about it!

    I still love my XCo yet I have still seem to have rear suspension issues :huh
  7. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    THANK YOU! For making me smile! What song did you have in mind? Rocky theme song, or 2001 Space Odyssey or maybe Highway To Hell? Anyhow there are plenty of us that still love our XCountry... The "little big bike" - little and more off-road worthy when compared to a GS -- yet big and more road worthy when compared to say a DRZ400... Also love your handle - named after your dream ride. Just one thing... Er well we don't take kindly to outright liars and there is no way any sane person could have read all 5700 posts - NO WAY! :freaky

    and Leafman... I have much respect for your experience level after your interesting tales... Yes I am guilty of trying to make my XCo more off-road worthy and it is still limited more than I'd like. I am having to take it easier than I want to sometimes, which is not ideal. But it is a compromise like all dual sport bikes going on and off road. I don't tour or camp with it so never added a lot of luggage space, so for me it is much better than a 650GS, but I can certainly see your side too. My use is 90% commuting on local paved roads but when I go off-road I tend to get a little rough :eek1 and quickly push it past it's limits, even with all my mods.
  8. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Whatever works for whomever is good for me.

    I certainly dont expect my preferences to be those of others.

    I once knew a guy who took a V11 Sport Guzzi (road bike) for a dirt road runner. And, who was that guy some years ago who traveled around the world on all those god-awful mud roads on a damn crotch rocket ? Seems like it was one of those new Benelli sport bikes. Also, dont ever forget the one-legged dude who traveled around the world and through dirt road Africa on a shovelhead Harley cruiser ! lol

    If they're happy, that's great.
  9. jjmead1

    jjmead1 now THAT"S a bike!

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    Has anyone replaced the seals on the OEM fork? If so please do all the work and tell me how to do it step by step:norton

    I was hoping one of the Infamous would have a link to their blog or something on how to replace the seals and service the fork. I have repaired and serviced many Fox bicycle forks and can do so with ease, I figure the OEM fork on the XC can't be all that hard. Just need a few headsup on parts needed, oil weight/level, and tools required.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. OH Yea, and an idea on amount of time it took you.......
  10. purdsam

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  11. studad

    studad Been here awhile

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    I'm about to hit some maintenance/ garage playtime on the XCountry. Let's start with the basics: Can somebody give me a link or a good description of how the spark plug comes out of these things? It looks like a lot more work than it should be.

    Thanks, everybody.

    Studad
  12. leafman60

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    I changed mine recently. Changing the plug is easy. Getting to it is the challenge !

    Check your throttle body for gunk and do a valve check while you have everything off. May as well.

    (Be careful removing that little breather hose from the plastic valve cover.)
  13. alleyway61

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    I wondered if anyone had encountered any problems with the fuse for the rear light / headlamp high beam blowing? Mine keeps doing so only after a few miles of riding. It's proving to be a difficult one to diagnose, and it would be great for a heads-up of previously known issues (i.e. the whole LED tail light unit) before paying a mechanic bucket loads of labour to strip the bike back and test the whole wiring loom step by step until the source of the issue finally rears it head.


    Its also annoying for personal reasons, as I was due to embark on a Euro tour with the bike only tomorrow, and will have to hang in limbo until I resolve the problem.


    Any help would be great!
  14. CavReconSGT

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    Several things to check. First are you certain it has been replaced with the right size fuse? Did you add anything to the headlight circuit that would increase the current draw? Did you remove and tighten anything that might be making a wire short that could cause the fuse to blow and last did you change the bulb to another bulb that might be drawing more current? Do you have a DVM or VOM that you can see what the current draw is on the circuit?

    KR
  15. purdsam

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    Here are some pics of the work done so far in Michigan with the help of my dad.

    The new look from the rear with R&G Tail Tidy, Leo Vince exhaust, and Hot Rod Welding X-tank. Notice all the extra room the new LV leaves between the muffler and racks on the left side!
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    The X-tank required the H&B rack lower mounting point to come out a bit further. Thanks to my dad, it was no problem.
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    I cut the plastic down with a band saw to prevent it from rubbing on the tank.
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    I also added Lava wrap and an additional TT heat guard for the forward section of pipe.
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    New chain, Sprocket, and TT chain guide are next.
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    I also used snooker's idea and painted the gray plastic with truck bed liner.
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    This is one of the X's Italian cousins that will be making the trip to South America with me.
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  16. alleyway61

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    Thanks for the reply. Yes the right size fuse has been used. replaced and re-blown a few times, this was a 7.5. I've also tried progressively stepping it up to a 15, though also these have blown. I've added nothing to the circuit, changed bulbs, or tightened anything to speak of.
    I don't have DVM or VOM either to check the draw, though I agree this would be useful.

    Any further thoughts?

    alleyway61
  17. DRONE

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    The main wiring harness on this bike is tight tight tight. I bet you got a spot somewhere where the insulation on a wire has rubbed through near where the harness passes under or over a hard spot. Impossible to find because the hard spot hides where the rubbing is happening. I'd start right near the battery box then follow the harness forward and back, finding the tight spots, and trying to get some electrical tape in there between the harness and the spot. Since this happens after a few miles of riding, I'd be suspicious of the area right under the seat. As the seat compresses, it might start to press down on the wiring somewhere, or start to pull it tight against a metal part. It's a shot in the dark, but that's my guess. How many miles you got on that bike?
  18. alleyway61

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    Thanks for a heads up Drone. You've given me a good place to start the hunt. Your probably right, I'll probably never exactly find where the exact worn spot is, thought if tape around all the touching points it'll hopefully iron out the problem. I'll keep you posted to how i get on.

    The bike has done just over 10.000 off the top of my head, i cant recall exactly at present as I had the speedo replaced some months back due to water damage inside. Thats a result from its last visit to BMW dealership for a service, after which they got a little heavy with the jet wash. Thanks guys! :clap

    More to follow.

    alleyway61
  19. lewiss66

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    I wonder if someone has dyno test his bike with the Booster plug installed?
    Especially interested about the mixture figures. To know if the air/fuel ratio is good.
    Thanks
  20. purdsam

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    Just got done with installing a new sprocket, chain, chain guide, and centerstand last night.

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    The SW-Motech centerstand is about 2.5" to tall and doesn't come with a foot peg/lever.
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    After the modifications, it works like a charm.
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