Yellowknife ice trucking

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  1. inverted

    inverted Been here awhile

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    One of my favorite episodes!!!
    Got home from work today to find my mailbox completly busted and the post split straight down the center!! My mail, which consisted of MCN, bills, and the new dennis kirk, was all over my driveway and lawn. Fucking ghetto...But my package from the great white north survived and was waiting for me in the gnarled up mailbox...I'm going to sweat all over it and break it in proper starting tomorrow. Thanks Ben!!! My friends are gonna be soooo jealous.
  3. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    Sorry to hear about the self-destructing mailbox, but glad that your loot made it there safely. Not too sure about the colours on that thing myself, but maybe you'll like 'em.




    Thanks! I watched that last night, hadn't seen it in years and didn't remember 99% of it. Great! "And to drink....the meatballs"! :rofl
  4. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    I have to apologise for today's pictures, which seem to me to be particularly unimpressive.

    It's now Sun 15th Feb. Kevin on dispatch last night when I'd got in had told me to call Tom on the day shift in the morning, so I was up at 5.30am and called in half an hour later. Tom told me that there wouldn't be any loads before noon so I met Pierre (my boss from Eureka, who was in town that night to catch a flight north) for a coffee then went to the shop to get my truck out. As I was driving back through town shortly after 9am (still in my car at this time as opposed to the truck), I saw Simon's truck sitting in Tli Cho's yard, hooked up to a trailer, load strapped down, ready to leave. Wtf? He'd only been an hour ahead of me the previous night so how come he was already in the line up to go north (which means he'd have already been given a t-time), and I was being told that there'd be nothing until lunchtime?

    The whole issue of 'the list' comes up again - pretty sure I've mentioned it before, and how there are always drivers complaining that people behind them on the list are going out ahead. I don't think I've ever been much affected by that before, but it sure looked like something was going on now. I'd like to have gone into dispatch and asked Tom outright what was going on but that would have been the worst thing to do as you basically have to suck ass 24/7 with your dispatchers. They have the power to make your life hell, and I've no doubt that this season they wouldn't have thought twice about doing so. We were all on tenderhooks regarding our jobs anyway, because with the reduced number of loads we were pretty sure they'd be looking for excuses to cut back on trucks, too. Anyway, I kinda respect Tom and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt if I could.

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    Instead I went into the drivers' trailer and asked Simon how come he'd got the load. I felt a bit foolish, actually, because although I was trying to appear casual I was angry (although not at him) and it probably showed. He just said that he'd called in that morning and Tom had told him to hook up to that load. There was another driver in there who thought that he'd been dicked around the day before, and later in the day I spoke to two more of Carl's drivers who said that they had most definitely been jumped on the list recently. I hadn't been jumped as such, but there sure was a big difference as a result of coming in one hour behind the guy in front. I wondered whether, rather than parking at Carl's yard and taking my car home then calling in in the morning, I'd be better off from now on sleeping in my truck in Tli-Cho's yard and going in in person in the morning. Seems a shame when I have my own bed a few minutes drive away, but perhaps that's what it would take.

    I pulled into the yard in my truck at 10.45am and went in to tell Tom I was there. Half an hour later he told me to hook up to a load that had just pulled into the yard having arrived from Edmonton. It was a pair of huge tracks for a massive dozer - kinda cool, but a bitch to tie down (there was other stuff on there as well). Ideally in this situation I'd say to the driver who had bought it in, "You have three staps and 6 chains on this load - rather than undoing them all and putting them all away, then me having to tie the whole load down from scratch again, I'll just give you that many chains and straps and we'll both save a whole bunch of time." But he thought his gear was that much better than mine that he didn't want to swap, and we had to do it the long way. :dunno

    Shoot, I haven't even left town yet.

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    I eventually left town at 2pm and had a great run to Lockhart, arriving at 10pm. I was traveling with two frenchies and an old timer called Don who has been driving this road on and off for almost 30 years! He said he had to take up the rear 'cos he only had 330hp which I thought was a little odd, but whatever. The journey was so good because the guys simply did exactly what they were supposed to do. Every time I came off a portage and hit a 1/2km marker, the first frenchie would be coming off the portage - perfect spacing. There was no bitching from the ranks, and any time I gave them info or instructions they just replied in the affirmative and did the right thing. Fantastic.
    On the radio during the trip I spoke to a friend coming the other way and told him about the episode that morning with having to wait for a load, and he made a good point. Perhaps the load that Simon was told to hook up to had arrived over night, and his being first on the list had ensured he was the one to hook up to it. I was second on the list, and perhaps the load I got was the next one in - simple as that. That does make sense and might reflect more on my negative attitude since the "You're all getting only 15 trips" speech a day or two previously rather than any tomfoolery (if you'll excuse the pun!) in the dispatch office.

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    I planned to sleep at Lockhart for 5 hours, prefering to sleep at night and drive during the day, and also having a bad attitude, and the two frenchies had to stop for the legally required 8 hours so I arranged to leave with Don at 5am. As it happens, at that time so many people were leaving that dispatch told us we had to join a list and wait half an hour. I was thinking that I should have known better and suggested that we'd leave at 4am instead, but it was too late now. No big deal.

    This trip I was lucky enough to be going to BHP, every driver's dream come true! What with the shitty treatment at Diavik and Snap Lake, not to mention the complete lack of any organisational skills at those two mines, BHP is the complete opposite. You want an example? At Diavik, if you want to go to the main camp to eat you have to: go to the dispatch trailer and ask permisson, fill out security forms, wait for a marshall to drive you there in a pick-up, and once you're there go through another security check before you can eat. At BHP you park your truck literally outside the front door and walk in. Without asking permission from anyone, you have complete access to the kitchen, the gym, a running track, laundry, TV, internet, a sauna and a 'gentleman's club' :evil . Pretty sweet, and I was very much looking forward to going there for the first time this season.

    Don turned off at Diavik and I went into BHP alone. I arrived at 13.35 and having gone into the 'Sprung' (the dispatch trailer) to hand in my paperwork, by the time I came out of the washroom the loader operator who would be unloading me was there, in his loader, waiting for me at my truck. talk about efficient - and the guy in the dispatch trailer had offered me a coffee! I almost fainted. :eek2 I know I took some photos that day, hold on while I find them and upload them, will ya?

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    I wonder whether this is the processing plant?
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    A very quick unload indeed, and I went back to the main camp to go in for a lunch bag. As I walked out of the camp, two prill haulers asked if I'd lead them back south so after a return visit to the Sprung to collect my paperwork, (and a few tense moments when they went to check whether or not there was a backhaul for me), the three of us headed south.

    My truck began to overheat on the return trip, which was a little odd as not only was I empty, but it was -20c. I thought, "Oh well" and opened the winter front a little more, but that only served to make the rig alternate between running too cold in the hammer lanes and too hot everywhere else. Clearly there was a problem. I closed the winter front back up and manually turned the engine fan on when I needed to until I got to Lockhart where I could check things over properly, albeit in the dark. I arrived there at 7.40pm and found that I was about 4 gallons short on coolant. Oops. I had checked the truck over the previous day while it had been in Carl's shop, and a quick search found a leak.

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    I had two gallons of coolant with me, but once again the Nuna guys in the shop at Lockhart saved my bacon by giving me two more. I did disagree with the mechanic there, though. I was going to put in plain water as the last two gallons, but he insisted it needed to be coolant. He said that with the windchill that water would be experiencing -40c and would freeze. But...in my opinion that wouldn't actually be the case because that water wouldn't be at 0c to begin with. Engine coolant is at above 80c when it is at operating temperature so it wouldn't come anywhere near close to freezing, but I do understand how he was thinking. Maybe you agree with him, but your honour I refer to the previous case of 'Squonker working for Carl's Dad in the few weeks prior to the ice roads opening'. In this case, Squonker was driving a 1980s vintage truck with a serious coolant leak, which only leaked when the engine was cold. Because the truck was parked in the shop every night, each morning we would simply fill the rad with tap water and send it out into the Arctic winter. It survived, and still does. Your witness. :deal

    Anyway, that problem solved I dipped my tanks (fuel guage didn't work, only had small tanks and BHP is a long trip), then headed back with two other Tli-Cho drivers called Lee and Barry. I knew Lee a little as he also lives in YK. Both those two were dog tired, Lee especially, and he had to stop at the Meadows to get his head down. Barry and I arrived back in town at 3.30am, dropped off our trailers and handed in our paperwork. I asked Kevin in dispatch how many trucks were ahead of me on the list. He said 19. Shit, could be a long wait until my next load....

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    Can I get you a coffee?!
  5. CruisnGrrl

    CruisnGrrl Two wheels, woot!

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    Awesome write up, I can see why you would be concerned about not getting your fair share of trips. Sounds like some of the "rules" have weeded out some of the hot heads.
  6. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    I am very disappointed - I purposely put an outrageous lie in my last write-up, and no one has even questioned it yet! Am I that good a liar? (I do pride myself...) Maybe it wasn't all that outrageous after all. Will do better next time.:D

    Today I sorted out my drive for next year - if I am back at all. I'm not going to be driving for Carl next year - nothing at all against him and I'd happily work for him again in the future, I just decided to take up one of the other offers I had for something different. Details to follow some other time, but I'll either be driving another T800 (a newer one, a winch truck) or an older Pete. Doesn't make much difference to me.

    For those of you that follow this kind of thing, all winter roads in the Territory are now closed for the season. The ice bridge over the Mackenzie closed to light traffic at 3pm this afternoon, and will remain open to heavy traffic (it's a ground clearance issue, not a weight one) until the weekend, at which point Yellowknife will be unaccessible by road for 3 to 4 weeks. Thank heavens for beer!:freaky
  7. Klay

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    Huh? I didn't catch it.
  8. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

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    :poser Oh, that reminds me of the time... Driving down in the states, had just crossed the Ohio River into Kentucky, a springtime Saturday morning and there was some sort of community event going on, with crowds on the sidewalks, crossing the streets at every crosswalk, etc. And there in the crowd is some little kid pumping his arm at me. Not even thinking of all the other people and how it might affect them, I instantly grabbed the cord and let loose a couple of loud toots. :rofl Right then, it was just me and that kid - the heck with the rest of them. :wave
  9. Spicy McHaggis

    Spicy McHaggis Darth Peach's cracker...

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    Hey Ben...I think you should do a "Girls of Ice" thing, kinda like Sander and I did the "Girls of Dawson"...:evil
  10. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    It was the 'Gentleman's Club' at the mine site, but perhaps it's not as ridiculous as I thought. I'll do better in my next write up...!
  11. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    Oh, way to go putting the blame on the foreign kid! I think it was your name on that thread, Andy!:D

    Believe me, you would not appreciate an 'Ice Girls' thread...actually, come to think of it if I could include dispatchers and office girls too it wouldn't be so bad. Why don't you and Northern Rob start a 'Ural Courier Service' for small loads next year, and we can do it together? Think of the selling points when you put in your proposal: Speedy delivery for rush loads (speed limit for pick-ups is 80 km/h so I'd assume you could do the same); you'd take up less space in the parking lot at Lockhart when it's busy; you'd do less damage to the ice; heck, they could make a TV series about you!!!!:clap
  12. Klay

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    That did raise my eyebrow, but I didn't speak up. :lol3
  13. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    That's a neat story. I got in trouble recently for not doing that...

    I was parked in Tli-Cho's yard in the northbound lane next to my buddy Peter. Peter's wife drove into the yard and the two of them chatted, then Peter pulled out and as he did so he gave a toot on his air horn. His wife then waved for me to go ahead infront of her and I did so, but no air horn from me - she's not my wife!!.

    A couple of days later Peter said that when he got home after that trip, his two yr old son had come to him at the door, and the first thing he'd said - even before "hello" - was "Tell Ben to blow his horn! Why didn't Ben blow his horn?" It had never occured to me that he would have been in the car with his mum, and apparently he was pumping his arm at me hoping I'd do what his dad had done. Peter just shrugged and said, "Well you know, that's just the kind of guy Ben is" and still gives me a hard time about it whenever his son is with us. :lol3
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    Spicy McHaggis Darth Peach's cracker...

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    Way to go, jackass!!! :lol3
  15. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    :rofl
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    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    Tues Feb 17th 2009

    In the morning at dispatch Tom told me I was number 20 on the list. I had had 3.5 hrs sleep just prior to my going in to see him and I didn't feel too bad; also figured that if I was that far down the list I'd likely be able to get a little more sleep before I went out again.

    In Carl's shop his mechanic found another radiator leak and while he was sorting that out Carl did some welding on my catwalk area.
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    I did a little shopping and when I called Tom to check how the list was moving late morning I was at number 2 already. So, straight to the quarry to get a load of cement for Diavik.

    A competent loader operator can load a tridem step with 2000 lb bags of cement in about 10, maybe 15 minutes, and a competent driver can strap those bags down in about twice as long. This was only my second load of cement this season so I was taking a little longer than that to strap down my load, and I'd push myself because the sooner I can get out, the better. But, it involves reefing on the ratchet straps to sinch them tight, and I'm only about 160 lbs and wielding a short 'snipe bar' - the bar we use to turn the ratchets, so it is hard work for a guy my size and you're always already dog tired when you start.

    This time the loader operator was also new and he was taking time to load the bags - which actually worked really well for me because I could keep up with him with the straps. You don't have to keep up with the loader guy, usually you throw as many straps on as you can while he's loading you, and when he's finished there is no problem with moving the truck out of the way and finishing the strapping elsewhere. You could probably haul a load of those bags with no straps on at all and they wouldn't move.

    But after about 20 minutes when the trailer was perhaps half loaded, and I had five straps done up, someone came along and told the guy on the loader that he was loading the wrong cement. You can guess what happens next - I have to undo every strap and he has to unload me and we start all over again. :baldy. I was pretty choked, not really at Steve on the loader 'cos it's hardly his fault, but it was typical Tli-Cho disorganization that had resulted in the situation. I was pleased with myself for not throwing a tantrum - I had considered it for a few seconds! And on the plus side the trailer had been good to go the moment I had hooked up to it (no frozen brakes for once), so that had saved me some time.

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    I left town at 3.40 pm with Lee and Barry from the night before, and a nice guy called Brad whom I hadn't met before.

    By the time we were underway we were all starting to feel tired. Lee and Barry weren't even sure they could make it to Lockhart and once we were on the ice I began to wonder whether I would, too. Then we had to pull over on portage 10 because of a spin out blocking the road up ahead on portage 11. A truck had pulled over to let a wide load go by and couldn't get going again, so having to sit and wait for half an hour didn't help our energy levels. Then, within 15 minutes of our getting underway again Brad called and told me that his load had shifted. He was the truck behind me so I waited for him on portage 13 and had a look myself. He had lifts of lumber on, and a top lift had moved 1 foot or more so he couldn't really go on safely. One choice would have been to use a chain and...shit, I can never remember what those things are called that you use to tighten chains with...EDIT: they're called 'boomers'....anyway, he could have used one of them to drag it back over, but he was uncertain and wanted to wait for a loader to come and push it back into place for him. That meant that Lee, Barry and I could leave him to wait and head on our way, and Brad would join another convoy once he was ready again.

    We finally arrived at Lockhart at 12.30am on Wed Feb 17th, and I wrote that I felt surprisingly good, but that I went straight to bed anyway! Lockhart dispatch told us that the parking lot was very full and recommended that if we were pulling super-Bs we should park on portage 43 for the night. Because I only had a single trailer on I went ahead and found a spot in the back of the parking lot. Barry and Lee had trains and slept on 43 as advised.

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    I was up at 04.30am and heading north after a bowl of cereal. Made Diavik at 1pm and was escorted to where I was to be unloaded. The loader operator was waiting patiently, but there were no helpers around this time - usually there is a Site Services crew of 2 guys who will help you undo your straps, and then help the loader operator unload you while you roll up your straps and put them away.

    So, two choices. No excuse for being lazy so having undone my straps I jumped up onto the trailer and held the hooks on the first bag up for the loader guy to come and pick it up. He drove over and said that I had to get down - if any safety guys saw me on the trailer they'd have a fit (this despite my being dressed in full PPE), and that there was a crew coming. He actually seemed a little scared that they'd see me; so I had to wait after all and let the Site Services crew do it when they arrived. Talk about OTT when it comes to safety!!

    I managed to get away from the mine without a backhaul again, but I did have to wait a couple of hours for another truck to run south with. While I was waiting, Brad turned up - the guy who's load had shifted the night before. Turns out he had had to wait four hours for another convoy to join! Poor guy - I'd thought there were other groups pretty close and if I'd known he would have been waiting that long I'd never have left him.

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    I ended up running back to Lockhart with three tankers, led by a guy called Jim whom I got along very well with. They were 'turning and burning' at Lockhart - just making the right hand turn and carrying on to YK rather than stopping for anything - and they asked me to come with them. I was tempted, actually I'd have liked to keep chatting, but they were going so stupidly fast that it just wasn't worth the risk of being busted. I stopped at camp for supper and ended up eating with Jay from the first series.

    We hadn't had a chance to say more than a few words this season up to that point and hadn't seen each other since '06 when we had been in that group of 4 or 5 trucks that spent a week or so hauling shacks from Misery to Snap Lake - I think that is one of the first stories I told in this thread. Jay had a new truck this year, a tri-drive KW winch truck and I'd been wondering why he had spent the extra on a tri-drive when he wouldn't have been paid any more for driving it. He said that it was actually the cheapest truck in the lot when he went shopping because no one else wanted the extra axle, and that's the only reason he picked it up. It still wouldn't have been cheap, though - only a year or two old, a Kenworth costs a pretty penny. Drift10, you might be interested to hear that it has a 460 Cat with SGR in it and Jay says it is absolutely gutless. He says that trucks with 425 mechanical Cats are pushing him on the Ingraham Trail.

    I left Lockhart and arrived back in Yellowknife at 2am, at which point Kevin in dispatch gave me a set of Super-Bs. I didn't write down what the load was, but it was ready and waiting so I chained it down right there and then, eventually hitting the sack at 5am. :snore

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  17. Drif10

    Drif10 Accredited Jackass

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    Tried one of them new ones last week, not a fan. Got a Sterling with a Detroit right now, hate that thing. Noisy as all fuck, and a bitch to shift because the ECM hangs up when you lift to flip a gear, which means it won't go, and you lose momentum waiting for it to get its shit together.

    Dunno about in the real cold, but down here gimme a Volvo with a Merc in it. Buddy of mine has one, what a sweet ride. Play basketball in the sleeper, so smooth and quiet, too.
  18. hardwaregrrl

    hardwaregrrl Can't shoot straight Supporter

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    Hey Ben, why was Jay not back for the second season. I really thought he seemed like a "real"person. I enjoyed his perspective, but not as much as I enjoy your stories!!!! Keep 'em comin'
  19. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    Was driving a pretty pathetic 1 yr old Sterling myself a coupla weeks ago. Very unimpressed - and automatic too! My first time in an automatic truck. Nice for driving around town, I admit, but I'd never be caught dead in one on the hwy.
    Haven't driven a Volvo or a Merc since I lived in the UK - too long ago to comment. Remember liking the Merc V8, but that's all. Cheers.



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  20. PXX

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    I'm real sorry to here that you guys are unimpressed with the Sterling truck. I used to build them until they closed our plant a few weeks back and shipped our jobs to Mexico. Alot of pride went into those trucks, it's a shame that profits come before people these days. The last truck that rolled off our line, on the frame rail, was written "Built with pride till the bitter end" The workers didn't quit on the company, they quit on us. Sorry to vent here but the trucks on the road are our legacy, if they're crap, what else do we have?