The I LOVE THIS GUN Thread

IIRC-- universal powder, 4.5 gr with a 115gr bullet (I believe 5.0 ish would be a max load)

One thing I love about the P238/938 is you can have the safety on and still operate the slide.

Something I never understood why they didn't do on the 1911s.

Ask John Browning.

I wish we could, I'd like to know why he did that.

It wasn't like that on the later highpowers.

At breakfast last sunday, where several of us get together to solve worldly problems, one of the regulars happened to mention that "Barrett" has produced and is marketing a rifle with a 1 inch bore. Well today I looked at their web site and the bigest rifle they offer is a .50.
Has anyone heard of a rifle with a 1" bore from Barrett?

ps. I subscribe to a couple of gun magazines and would think something that large would be plastered all over the cover. At the same time I don't wanna call bullshit, in front of several mutual friends, but mabe that's what he wants. dunno.

Barrett makes many guns for the military. The one you're thinking of is called the XM-109. It's a 25mm x 59mm anti-material rifle.

Thanks J. I'm guessing those things arn't ava. to the general public.

No. Not like you can go into wally world and pick up a box of XM25 rounds. It's basically a grenade projectile.

I wouldn't expect to find a box of .50bmg rounds @ the chineese emporium either.

Maybe so as you reholster you will not push the slide out of battery? I habitually place my thumb on the back of the slide of my Glock as I reholster for that reason. With a 1911 I would not need to.

Ah, that makes some sense.

In "makes no sense at all" category, the 1911's are probably that way because the Army asked for it.

I am betting it had to do with taking the gun out of or slightly out of battery whilst being carried.

I'd agree, and it was probably specified somewhere. not the slide lock per se, just that it couldn't come out of battery whilst being carried.

I should have used a smiley with my previous post. You know, "jumbo shrimp", "plastic silverware" and "army Intelligence"

It makes sense in that manner.

Was he designing it specifically for army trials at the time?

Remember there is the right way, the wrong way, and the army way for doing everything!

Bear in mind that the Army was interested in a horse cavalry weapon. The 1911 was developed from the Browning 1905 .45 auto. The first experimental model had no thumb safety, and the Army asked for one. Browning was working closely with Army Ordnance for several years. The 1911 was adopted because it was the only weapon in the trials that didn't malfunction or break parts. IIRC, it fired about 6000 rounds and was still going strong at the end.

That oughta tell you something if people can't get their $1000+ 1911 past 1000 rds without a malfunction.

Ah, but there IS a reason for that. All these 1911s made now are either very accurate, or very malfunction free. Not both unless you hit the happy medium of accuracy vs reliability. The reason a old war relic 1911 can ingest thousands of rounds with no malfunctions is because they were built so loose, they can get very very dirty with nothing tightening up enough to malfunction.

A tighter 1911 will out shoot a looser one so these custom companies try and make the gun as tight as they can whilst maintaining the most reliability they can.

You can have a super reliable 1911 or a super accurate one or a combination of both...but there are trade offs.

Here's a short history of the trials: http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/trials-of-m1911/