Bill S. Preston Esquire. Ted "Theodore" Logan. So who get to be who? ...and for god's sake put a shirt on that guy.
Hey Anthony, Just curious, maybe a silly question but what's the idea behind the extra conjoining zipper on the rain liner on my Navigator jacket?
The extra main connection zipper that runs vertically down the front? Not sure one you are referring to. Anthony
It's the short zip in the back that connects to the pants. As you can see, there's another one on the rain liner that would not hold the outer jacket down in a slide. Am I missing something?
Ahhh - So if you have a pair of compatible REVIT! pants you can go shell-to-shell and waterproof liner to waterproof liner to ensure waterproof liners stay in place and create their elemental barriers. Let me know if that answers your question or what else I could answer. Thanks, Anthony
Ok, which pants have this feature? Do you have pics or a video showing how this works? My pants are Dakar. If I connect the zip on the outer layer, the tail of the rain liner stays bunched up right above it. If I zip the zip on the rain liner, there's nothing to hold the outer layer and back pad in place in a get off.
Hey Ken, We don't have a video specific covering it. You would go Jacket outer Shell to Pants shell and you would connect Jacket Liner to Jacket liner. I find it easiest to lay the outfit on the floor and zip it while it's off. Once you have it on it will be really difficult to do. Once zipped, the 2-piece essentially functions as a full suit and will cover you in the most extreme of all weather conditions. For the casual day-tripper the extra connection step may or may not be overkill. Dakar, Sand, Cayenne Pro, Defender and Everest outfits should all have this feature. Let me know if you were looking at something different and we will double check it for you. Anthony Anthony
I guess my earlier (2007) Dakar pants don't have this feature. That's ok, it's still great gear. Thanks
Shoot Ken, they may have been early. If there is no zipper on the rain liner in the pants, that sounds like the case. I think some people use the feature and some don't. I don't think you are giving up a dramatic feature by not having it, it's just a nice to have in the driving rain if you have time to plan before you go out in it. Best, Anthony
Hey All, We have some exclusive REV'IT! news. We recently worked a deal to bring the REV'IT! Ranger Gore Windstopper Jacket into the states. The Ranger is the big brother to the old Digital which was a lighter weight softshell which worked so well for so long. The Ranger is the step up from the current model REV'IT! Samurai Gore Windstopper composite shell. The Original MSRP on these guys was $300, but we have them for $269 as a RevZilla Exclusive. We have a full Video Review coming soon. For the time being, check out our Schuberth SRC Review which is the only video that I am wearing the REV'IT! Ranger Jacket in. <iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qylPbUrbvx4" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe> As always all questions welcome. Anthony
Yo Anthony! Looks like I am getting a fat check from Uncle Sam, so I am looking to upgrade my kit. I'm a looking to go to a GoreTex shell jacket and am thinking of a "Stitch", the Rev'It Everest GTX or going all in and getting the Klim Adventure Rally. I have a 1200 GSA and I ride all the time rain or shine all year. I am on the bike every day, so long as there is no snow or ice on the roads. I want something that will give me room to layer up in my Gerbing's and still be comfortable. So what do you think about the Rev'It Vs. the Klim? Is the Klim really worth the extra cheese or is it just overkill? How do they compare for fit, comfort, and ventilation. Oh and I'm kind of a fat ass so I wear a 3x in Rev'It. I can layer up under my Dragon jacket, but I feel like the Michelin man when I do. Thanks Larry
Hey Larry, It will tell you that both the Rally and the Everest will be a more updated design both aesthetically and technically to the stich, but you have to ask yourself how important that is. It's also the 1-piece option, so for the purpose of this discussion I am going to let that sleeping dog lie. Those who want 1-piece, know the trade off's and benefits. For the type of riding you do either of the Jackets will perform awesome and have the waterproof outer shell part down pat - without the need to install a liner or reach for the oversuit - just close your vents when it rains. I think the key design difference on this matchup is that the Everest GTX is really designed to perform superbly as a cross over between on-road touring and enduro type riding. The Klim Adeventure Rally is happiest standing on the pegs on the dirt over long distances. It's a heavier exterior and the fit is meant for a armor compression suit as well as knee armor to be worn underneath. Also the internal harness integrated backpack system is an added feature / cost that you have to ask yourself if you need. I think the Everest uses the best materials available while remaining well rounded, while the Rally just goes for it in the off road sense. I think due to its lighter weight and less "crunchy" construction the Everest will be an easier garment for every day as well as be less taxing in the summer heat. It also uses the 3L Cool heat reflective black. The Rally on the other hand has Talisman Fabric which is just plain gnarly and protective in the shoulders and seat, but does add weight to an already very heavy-duty shell. Also if you are not planning on wearing a compression suit, you will need to pick up a set of d3o armor for the Rally which is an extra cost, is molecular, but in my opinion not quite as premium as the SAS-TEC on the Everest. They both should accommodate your Gerbings / liners well. The Everest does come with the REV'IT! removable Exkin Air Liner - super warm, and super thin synthetic hollow-fill fiber liner. It will take you quite deep before your Gerbings are necessary. Bottom line, unless you need some of the true offroad features of the Adventure Rally (because you spend that much time offroad) or you just want to have them at your disposal, the Everest is my favorite option for crossover riding from commuting to dualsporting. Happy to further the conversation. This was my quick first pass. -Anthony I am sure you have seen our vids, but for anyone else following this conversation here are the breakdowns of the two all-season premium outfits.: REV'IT! Everest GTX Suit <iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rc76mVzq9oo" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe> Klim Adventure Rally Suit <iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/boJEXSim_I0" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
At first, I thought $269 for a soft shell:huh then I read your description on your site. This jacket alone could do the job of both the insulating layer and the membrane, compared to jackets with removable liners. Really? That changes things... What is the ranger using for a main zipper to keep rain out?
Thanks Anthony, I've seen the videos (they are great) but I needed some hands on insight. The bulk of the use is going to be fall,winter,spring riding around town with a long distance trip thrown in a couple of times a year. Hopefully to the mountains or the great white north, with some light off road thrown in. As I get the skill set I will increase the amount and difficulty of off road. I live in Memphis, so mesh in the summer is a must. That means two sets of gear, one for summer and one for fall/winter/spring. I don't want to have to buy a third set of gear for trips and off road too. I would rather pay top $$ for great gear up front. Thanks for the help Larry
Hey Larry, Thanks for the further insight into your thinking. In Memphis.. (damn just reminded me I haven't been to Corkys in forever).. you are good with a mesh outfit for the summer. So the weight of the shell is less of an issue for F-W-S riding as most times it will be moderate-cool-cold. I think either one of these piece will serve you well. They are both extremely well designed, protective and thought out. The difference is the primary positioning. The Klim is an Offroad Suit suited for crossover, whereas the REV'IT! is a Road suit with the ability to crossover. I also look at the Klim as a technical shell vs the REV'IT! which is more of a complete package off the hanger. If you would like to call in, I would be happy to chat with you. I have some time today. I know it's a big decision. My extension is 101. If for some reason I don't pick up, go ahead and leave a message and I will call you back. Best, Anthony
JW! Good to see you raise your head. I know you are always lurking ;-) The key difference is that the shell is water resistant vs waterproof - it is windproof however via gore windstopper. Also the thermal is solid, but not as warm as say an Exkin Air or Thermolite quilted liner. I have worn my Ranger under my Defender a bunch this winter, but have used the Gore-Tex Defender liner in the rain. This shell is a big investment, but it is really well designed and functional. It's 100% the super-geek tech softshell. I was all excited when mine showed up in October. I am shooting the Ranger video tomorrow. Look for it next week. Hope all is well, bud. Anthony
Anthony, I have a pair of the turbine pants but the new tornados look interesting due to the long zipper and different cut. The tordado pants look to be the same or better (more mesh area on the back). Is there something about them that makes them not as good as the turbines? Asking due to the pricing difference. I'd probably be into a pair if the length is good. I like them to be longer so they don't ride up on the boot when seated. The sizing information looks to be the same (no mention of different cut vs sizing change) so would I just order the same size I have or need to change? Sorry, don't recall the size offhand but I'm 5'10". 168 or so and wear 33/34 x 34 jeans...36 length for bootcut wranglers. Thanks
Ahhh, that makes sense. Thanks. Speaking of Super Geek Tech, I have a really geeky thought. Check your PM's..
Thanks for the help. I'm still working over what I want. I'm really leaning towards the Klim suit. I like the venting on it better, and I like the built in bladder. I've got a Rev'It Dragon jacket that I love, but I have found I really don't use the liners. When it's really cold I wear my Gerbing's or just a sweat shirt. The liners are good, but I like to layer with other cloths more than using the zip in thermal. With a shell like the Klim, it's looks roomy enough to build an "A La Carte" layering system under it that will do double duty off the bike. Right now I am going to set the money aside and wait a few months and see if I can loose a few more pounds before I pull the trigger. When the check comes in though, I will be calling to order a Schuberth lid for sure. The Ranger jacket is very cool. I've been a soft shell fan for years. In fact I've got an Arcteryx soft shell that occasionally does double duty on the bike. It kind of goes back to the A La Carte layering I was talking about. With the right hard shell you can run a good fleece pull over or jacket, or move to a soft shell as a mid layer. It gives you lots of options to build a system that works for all kinds of weather and is functional when you get to your destination. If you get down Memphis way I will take you for some great ribs at the Redezvous. I am planning on being in Pa. for the BMW MOA rally, and then heading over to Jersey to see my son. I will try to stop in the shop when I'm in Phili. Take care Larry