Sure seems to be that way...the oil flow schematic shown in post 2747 doesn't show an oil cooler. http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19743805&postcount=2747 I like the bike...it sort of puts the GS back on the map for me. The wet clutch is key. I think it looks good...in a modern way...I could do without the forked tounge on the beak though. Since all the lights are now LED, the reduced alternator output is a non-issue. And having the oil fill and the sight glass on the same side..genius ! The instruments look tidy--but I would have preferred a digital speedo. The wind protection looks like it could be better --the screen seems to be closer and more angled back toward the rider with bigger ears (the dark grey plastic down low).
There's no oil cooler, only the two-sided water radiator (with single fan on the right side). According to the design brief, the ratio went from 22/78 (oil/air cooling) to 35/65 (water/air cooling). Whether there is an internal oil/water heat exchanger like what is found on the new Suzuki VStrom 650 is TBD....unless someone here already knows the answer to that? -SM
Hey, I just realized that they finally moved the oil sight glass to the same side of the bike as the oil fill!
speaking of...anyone know what the oil capacity of the new bike is? I won't dare to ask for speculation on viscosity for fear of sparking an oil thread outbreak ;-)
The LED lights are an option so what happens if you don't have that option? There are three headlight options. Similar to what we have, the same but with an LED day light and the full LED light. There are already rumours that the US can't have the LED lights.
As long as I can use my small EUR-LED turn signals from the 2010 and don't have to get used to these awful long things
Not to worry. No electrics will be needed for the heated gear I am busy working on right now in the Geerage. You will simply plug in several quick disconnects into the water cooling system and warm water will be circulated thru a miles worth of plastic tubing inside the gear. And for your passenger, so you don't have to leave her at home, she will simply plug her outfit into yours. You guys will be like additional little radiators. Heck, in colder climates, you might be able to get rid of the radiator and those stupid looking little shroud things all together. Weight savings, better aerodynamics and warmth all in one. Stay tuned.
Wow, Tallguy-09 . . . can that wind tunnel photo really be showing the width across turn signals of 3m! Perhaps that measurement was taken with a 3M tape(measure) which needs recalibration.
Same experience with us. 05 GS and RT 93.5 R11RS 01 R1150R 99 R11S Never had any issues with any of them.
Hey, I'm German so pretty much a "detail-guy", didn't want to write something like 95.35mm, haha. It lotally doesn't matter on the GS I guess.
The voltage regulator turns the field current on and off so the alternator cycles between doing nothing and producing current. The alternator does not run at full power all of the time and the excess is not dumped off as waste heat.
If the Multi had shaft drive and I could rest assured it was reliable, I would buy it over the GS if only for the cost savings. But I also like its looks, sporty feeling and hp. How much is this thing (GS) going to cost? It looks like everything is an add on and my bet is that it will be an add on to 20k, which gets you everything in the Multi. Is this thing going to cost 28k for everything the Multi has for 20?
Not that I would be in the market for this bike ( love my 1100 too much to get rid of it ) , but I can't help but wonder why BMW did not mount the radiators like Honda did with the VFR and the Super Hawk. Seems like it would have tucked them in more to the bodywork, made them less obtrusive and less prone to off road damage and made it easier to put a set of crash bars around them. Could it be that BMW is reading the magazines and building their new off road bike a little less off roadable and more streetbike, like the new Triumph ?
You're not the first person to say that in this thread. It confuses me, though. My hexhead R1200GS has the sight glass and the fill on the same side. So did my oilhead R1100RS. What am I missing here?
The camheads moved the location of the oil fill to the right head cover but left the oil sight glass on the left.
I had posted earlier regarding having read that the LED was only for daytime running lights, with HID being the main light. I was wrong about the HID… it's halogen, according to this blurb on webbike.com: Seeing and being seen as well as possible - these are crucial factors on which the safety and therefore fun of motorcycling depend. This is why BMW Motorrad also dedicated intense efforts to the development of a new lighting unit for the R 1200 GS. The new standard halogen headlight is not only considerably smaller than the previous one. In terms of road illumination, too, it offers top-level lighting technology for both low and high beam. Intensive tests in the BMW Group lighting tunnel have generated light levels which - given the same light emission area - achieve significantly better results in terms of perceptibility and vision for night riding as compared to the competition. BMW Motorrad offers an additional daytime running light with LED technology as an ex works option. The unit consists of four LED modules and is integrated underneath the main halogen headlight. The daytime running light allows other road users to differentiate the motorcycle much more clearly, thereby offering a huge safety benefit. What is more, the use of LED technology means a lower level of energy consumption and an extended lifetime. The daytime running light is switched on either automatically via a light sensor or manually instead of the main headlight using the "Daytime running light" switch. When darkness falls or when entering a tunnel, there is an automatic switchover to the halogen main headlight, providing optimum road illumination to ensure excellent visibility. So, the question remains as to whether or not there is an LED high or low beam available as an option.