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Old 11-14-2005, 03:38 PM   #1
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8 million people and five million scooters....

I'm hooked ! I just got back from Vietnam. Everyone rides scooters and the chicks where high heels even riding

I'm in the mood to buy a scooter , can you guys tell me which scooter you bought and why you decided to buy that particular bike ?

I'm looking at the Rukus and the Vino, but all options are open.

I need a bike that is reliable ! That is job 1.

Any suggestions ?

thx,

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Old 11-14-2005, 06:47 PM   #2
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I started with a Vento Zip R3i to see if I'd like scootering.



About $1200 new.

I fell in love with it--it was MUCH more fun than I thought I'd have with a 50cc bike. About a 37mph cruise, 43mph top end, 75-80mpg, stone-reliable, and great brakes. I wouldn't hestitate to buy another Vento.

We ended up buying 2 more scoots: a nice Kymco Super9 and a Stella.

Either one is great as practical everyday transportation where I live.

My Stella with a Pinasco 177 kit, Jim Lomas/SIP expansion chamber, and Dellorto 24G carb will cruise at 55-60, with a top end somewhere just north of 70, and will accelerate briskly getting there. Plus I can easily pull from a stop in 2nd, and from a rolling stop in 3rd. It will idle around town in 3rd like it's an automatic.

I got the Stella because of the history and aesthetics of a Vespa PX 2 stroke 150 with manual transmission. It's extremely durable and suited to hard everyday use as a commuter, but it also works well for scooter touring. Parts are cheap and plentiful, and making it go faster is easy and cheap.

About $3000 new; $1900-$2500 used.



The Kymco Super 9 is a solid bike that handles great, and is a great race platform. It's not a cheap scooter, but Kymco puts a 2 year warranty on it, and it's built more like a motorcycle than a scooter--great lighting, stiff chassis, nice tires, excellent fit-and-finish throughout, dual disc brakes, liquid cooled, full instrumentation, and plenty of hi performance upgrades available.

About $2600-$2800 new.





Adding a scooter (or two) to the motorcycle stable has been a great decision. They're cheap to own and operate, and much MUCH more fun than I ever anticipated they'd be. I can either cruise around at a relaxed pace and just enjoy the scenery that used to be blurred, or go drag the centerstand in tight turns.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:13 AM   #3
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Photog has done a great job of hitting on the different sub-catagory of scooters. I went with a Yamaha Zuma which is a 50cc 2-stroke. I've posted ad naseum about my driveline tuning which probably makes it sound like all I do is tinker with the thing. The reality is that it is very easy to work on and my tinkering doesn't preclude actual riding. I live in a hilly area and choosing a 2-stroke probably wasn't the best call. But I love 2-strokes and that was that. So I'm still tinkering toward perfection but in all honesty if it never got anymore "perfect" I'd still be happy with the scooter. I've had so much fun!

My buddy bought a Vespa ET4 at the same time I bought my Zuma and if I'd known how much I would enjoy scootering I would have spent the extra money on one. While getting max performance out of small displacement is nearly an obsession for me there is something to be said for purchasing an easier path to ones goals.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:12 AM   #4
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I got my Riva for a couple reasons

Under 1k

4 stroke reliability (I always seem to foul plugs on a 2 and for a put put I don't want to worry)

Didn't have to assemble it, it was used. (IIRC, the vento has to be put together...)

RED!!!!

CVT twist n go tranny. (I drive a stick car, though)

My dad won't let me steal his 1200cc Sporty, though I'm pretty sure the Riva's more fun.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:40 AM   #5
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I also live on a mountain and the hills are quite steep. I hope a 50cc can cut it. Have you had any issues with the Zuma ? The Vespa ET4 four also sounds good.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:18 PM   #6
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I also live on a mountain and the hills are quite steep. I hope a 50cc can cut it. Have you had any issues with the Zuma ? The Vespa ET4 four also sounds good.
No issues per se but I just think 4-strokes are better suited for the hills. My 2-stroke will certainly do it but small displacement 2-strokes are an exercise in comprimise. I think 4-strokes with twice the displacement do a better as all-arounder's.

I've chronicalled my Zuma tuning on this forum if you care to read through it all.
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:25 PM   #7
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Yup... going to see what you did to the Zuma... and i'll prolly take that advice and look at the four stroke scoots. As a matter of fact i'm going to look at the Vestpa line of scooters tomorrow. I really try and stay away from Italian cause I cherish reliability and easy to get parts... but I guess we'll see tomorrow if I change my mind.. later hp


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No issues per se but I just think 4-strokes are better suited for the hills. My 2-stroke will certainly do it but small displacement 2-strokes are an exercise in comprimise. I think 4-strokes with twice the displacement do a better as all-arounder's.

I've chronicalled my Zuma tuning on this forum if you care to read through it all.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:38 AM   #8
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Thx for the info. I never thought I'd add a scooter to the stable but when I rode scoots to beat the dreaded traffic in Saigon and Hanoi I was sold. I know my 1200 GS would have had a miserable time trying to negotiate the worst traffic I've ever seen anywhere in the world including India.

Which one is your fav. of the three ?
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