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Old 03-04-2007, 08:02 AM   #1
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BMW 450 enduro (merged) threadfest...

This my dear friends, is a new BMW enduro motorcycle. It was ridden bij Sachsa Eckert, former German enduro champion in the German E2 this weekend.











Very stealth indeed, and both BMW and Sachsa seem very hush about it.

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Old 03-04-2007, 08:11 AM   #2
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Left-side chain? So its a completely different engine than the 650? Wow.....
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:32 AM   #3
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It needs a bath.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:56 AM   #4
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How is it that the new designers think that you don't need a frame wrapping around the bottom of the motor? They must have never ridden in rocky terrain. I have cased my bike with a skid plate on it so hard that the dent goes all the way to the motor. The last time I hit something hard it bent the frame behind the skid plate. It seems real stupid to me to think that the motor cases are going to hold the skid plate in a manner strong enough to thwart off these kinds of impacts.

I don't have a problem on my 950 since it doesn't get to do singel track, but on a bike designed for single track it just doesn't do the job. I am going to pass on the new KTM 690 if the dualsport version doesn't have a cradle frame.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:22 AM   #5
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:32 AM   #6
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How about removing the engine from the frame just to change the sprocket:



This has to be a prototype, yes definately.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:41 PM   #7
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How is it that the new designers think that you don't need a frame wrapping around the bottom of the motor? They must have never ridden in rocky terrain. I have cased my bike with a skid plate on it so hard that the dent goes all the way to the motor. The last time I hit something hard it bent the frame behind the skid plate. It seems real stupid to me to think that the motor cases are going to hold the skid plate in a manner strong enough to thwart off these kinds of impacts.

I don't have a problem on my 950 since it doesn't get to do singel track, but on a bike designed for single track it just doesn't do the job. I am going to pass on the new KTM 690 if the dualsport version doesn't have a cradle frame.
I'm with you 100% on this.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:36 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by ram1000
How is it that the new designers think that you don't need a frame wrapping around the bottom of the motor? They must have never ridden in rocky terrain. I have cased my bike with a skid plate on it so hard that the dent goes all the way to the motor. The last time I hit something hard it bent the frame behind the skid plate. It seems real stupid to me to think that the motor cases are going to hold the skid plate in a manner strong enough to thwart off these kinds of impacts.


I don't have a problem on my 950 since it doesn't get to do singel track, but on a bike designed for single track it just doesn't do the job. I am going to pass on the new KTM 690 if the dualsport version doesn't have a cradle frame.
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I'm with you 100% on this.
My GS does not have a frame under it and riding double on parts of the Rubicon I managed to smash the crap out of the stock bashplate and I did no damage to the engine, just took off the skid plate and hammered it out. And with that heavy pig two up, I am sure I hit rocks harder than I am with my 325# TE riding solo.
So It might not be an issue with me, time will tell when the bike comes out.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:41 AM   #9
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This my dear friends, is a new BMW enduro motorcycle. It was ridden bij Sachsa Eckert, former German enduro champion in the German E2 this weekend.
(pictures courtesy of 6days.eu)
Stop It!!!!

Now we're going to have a bunch of X-Challenge order holders second guessing their down payments.....

Can we get a mod to move this to the "Nessie and Bigfoot" Forum....
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Not too sure where to post this but i'd love to meet some new people that ride a KLR650 in the northern Utah area. I'm new to my 2007 KLR and would love to have maintenance, tech and any other advice..
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:16 AM   #11
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:18 AM   #12
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30 liter
one piece tank of the bmw from frans verhoeven.
disigned bij Bert duursma and Frans verhoeven.

Its a subframe as well and the hole inthe front is were the rear shock goes trough.


PS Frans is back in the race but with a lot of delay.

The problem was not the engine ore the transmission but the prime axale shaft.
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Old 01-04-2010, 11:03 AM   #13
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30 liter
one piece tank of the bmw from frans verhoeven.
disigned bij Bert duursma and Frans verhoeven.

Its a subframe as well and the hole inthe front is were the rear shock goes trough.
That is quite a piece of engineering. I want one. :~)
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:45 AM   #14
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30 liter
one piece tank of the bmw from frans verhoeven.
disigned bij Bert duursma and Frans verhoeven.

Its a subframe as well and the hole inthe front is were the rear shock goes trough.


PS Frans is back in the race but with a lot of delay.

The problem was not the engine ore the transmission but the prime axale shaft.

Forgive me if I got the story wrOng, but wasnt the axle bearing seized? They had to cut it out with a hacksaw by hand! And htis after the crazy fuel problmes!
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:46 PM   #15
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BMW 450 rumors hits the press

Well there have been some interesting rumors floating around about BMW producing a 400 or 450 competition enduro and here's some more spy photos of the prototype



or read the article here http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne.../?&R=EPI-89560
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