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Old 07-11-2007, 10:32 AM   #1
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XR650R's Fate and Replacement?

I hear over and over that the XR650R will be no more (although haven't seen the official word yet, but I'm sure some of you know the answer for sure). Assuming the XR650R goes the way of the dinos, any word on its replacement?
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:11 AM   #2
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Yes, BMW makes a worthy successor to the XR650R

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Serious, at the moment it seems like the Japanese are sort of neglecting the 650cc offroad class entirely, which is a shame. With all the experience these companies have developed in the 450 class, you'd think they have enough experience to build a light powerfull (60hp) 650cc single.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:24 AM   #3
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I was at my local honda shop the other day and 1 of the partners/
owners was standing there so I asked him "izit true the 650r is gone in 08"
he stared at the floor and looked like he just got grounded from his mom.
I waited................he stared at his shoes.................I kept waiting........
....he cleared his throat............................................ ........................
I finally decided to break the silence " thats what I hear online anyway"

This seems very suspicious to me. These Honda guys are tricky.
Somethings coming......I can feel it


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Old 07-11-2007, 12:41 PM   #4
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:55 PM   #5
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FI, inverted forks and a bigger tank would be good places to start/improve. Heck, make it a 680 too Mr. Honda!
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:57 PM   #6
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'fraid the die was cast when honda A straddled a crf450.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:53 AM   #7
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FI, inverted forks and a bigger tank would be good places to start/improve. Heck, make it a 680 too Mr. Honda!
A sub-frame and factory rack would be a nice additon too! (and can we have this one with greased bearings from the factory as well... no, no, sorry that is asking too much )

Well I've already invested enough into my XRR to make it a life long bike as well. This is the bike that I'll ride for decades (if I can still get spares...)
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:37 PM   #8
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:49 PM   #9
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Eh, the cruiser craze has the Japanese completely losing the script. Until that changes, I don't see much of a push for the bikes ADVers tend towards midweight dualsports or adventure tourers. Of course, they've got every conceivable market segment covered with their European and Aussie model lines, but as long as the market research says "Cruisers, Supersports, and streetfighters for the beginners," we're not going to get much else from them. The market says Americans want a bike that says "I'm a jackass with a tiny dick! Pay attention to me!" Large public companies tend not to argue with the market.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:08 PM   #10
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Yes, BMW makes a worthy successor to the XR650R

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Serious, at the moment it seems like the Japanese are sort of neglecting the 650cc offroad class entirely, which is a shame. With all the experience these companies have developed in the 450 class, you'd think they have enough experience to build a light powerfull (60hp) 650cc single.

And it only costs almost twice as much
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:50 PM   #11
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And it only costs almost twice as much
Is that true? Over here the Xchallenge is in the same leage as the KTM 640 Adv or the 625 SXC and the XR650R for example. Take for instance the prices in Italy (where the XR650R is still available with electric start even ).

XR650R: 8800,- Euros
Xchallenge: 8630,- Euros
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:56 PM   #12
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Is that true? Over here the Xchallenge is in the same leage as the KTM 640 Adv or the 625 SXC and the XR650R for example. Take for instance the prices in Italy (where the XR650R is still available with electric start even ).

XR650R: 8800,- Euros
Xchallenge: 8630,- Euros
Wow. List price in the US for the XR650R is $6349 (which would correspond to $4619 Euros). Doesn't have electric start (I didn't know any of them did), but sheesh.

And it easy to find these bikes in near new condition on the used market for $3000-$3500.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:21 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Max Kool
Is that true? Over here the Xchallenge is in the same leage as the KTM 640 Adv or the 625 SXC and the XR650R for example. Take for instance the prices in Italy (where the XR650R is still available with electric start even ).

XR650R: 8800,- Euros
Xchallenge: 8630,- Euros
The XR650R has been dropped by our unwise people at Honda Australia as well as the XR650L they expect you to buy the CRF450-Not in the same league.
Also on price here in AUSSIE
X Challange $15,000 aud
defunct XR650R $10,990 aud
DR650 se $7,690 aud

Regards Aussie
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:05 AM   #14
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Honda has released the 08 650L which, in the past, was released with the rest of the "off road bikes." They almost always release the 650L and the 650R at the same time.

The still haven't released the 250X, 450X, or 650R, which means they are saving them until the convention this fall.

This could be a very good sign or a very bad sign for the 650R.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:35 PM   #15
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I hear over and over that the XR650R will be no more (although haven't seen the official word yet, but I'm sure some of you know the answer for sure). Assuming the XR650R goes the way of the dinos, any word on its replacement?
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