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Old 12-08-2009, 06:16 PM   #1
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Eek This picture got me thinking, Front wheel drive Hack

I know almost nothing about sidecars so i'm sorry if this is just a stupid idea, but a front wheel drive Hacks makes kind of sense to me.



Maybe a three wheel drive will be the ultimate snow machine.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:22 AM   #2
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Such as using THIS for a front & rear drive combination tug?

http://www.rokonworld.com/amk2.gif

http://www.rokonworld.com/history.html




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How it works: The driven front suspension is a leading link type. It has the advantage of low weight and lower unsprung weight which improves traction. It is stiff horizontally which allows the use of one light weight spring shock unit and allows for 8 inches of shock travel. It consists of a swing arm pivoted at the bottom of the front fork. A dual idler sprocket rotating at this pivot point receives the drive chain from the front drive miter box. A second chain on this dual idler sprocket drives the front wheel. Both chain drives thereby have constant sprocket center distances.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:53 AM   #3
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Actually From what i can see this guys used a different trick, somehow popular in the "Rockcrawler" community.

The comcept is actually pretty simple, they take a small "Transverse" engine and tranny (from a front wheel drive car) mount it longitudinal behind the driver seat (center of mass of the vehicle) and use one of the half shafts (left or right depends in how the engine and output shaft spines) to send power to a rear differential (Actually a "Locker") and do the same for the front wheels, ending up with a 4 wheel drive vehicle.

Notice how the "Motorcycle" is moved to the left side of the driveline and the substantial "Box" structure where the shafts will be house.


At least that is how it looks (To me) from the pictures Richard post.

Also Notice the "3x3" sticker in the back of the chair. (I think that is what it is)
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:07 PM   #4
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It is a Vogel 3 wheel drive made in France. I am thinking may be it's made from parts of, or a modify 4X4 ATV

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Old 12-09-2009, 10:17 PM   #5
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It is a Vogel 3 wheel drive made in France. I am thinking may be it's made from parts of, or a modify 4X4 ATV

HEY!!! Someone has been peeking at my design boards!!!

Seriously, I have been working on some sketches and early layouts of a design for a 2-wheel or 3-wheel-drive sidecar where the sidecar frame is used to hang all three wheels/suspensions off of.

My powerplant of choice, of course, was going to be an oilhead boxer BMW. And I see that they this Vogel rig has already been mated to an Airhead.

The frame looks to me to be all custom fabrication, and the hubs/axles look like automotive front-wheel-drive half-shaft units. Smart-Car perhaps???



Cannot seem to find many other photos or details about the rigs. The builder is listed on several websites listing sidecar manufacturers in France, but there is no website or email address for them, and they all date back to 2007.

Are they still around???
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:17 AM   #6
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:37 AM   #7
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Rokon actually had a sidecar option for their bikes. The hack wheel was not driven but still very very kewl ! My brother and I have had 1wd Rokons , its amazing where they will go , 2wd has got to be incredible!
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