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Old 01-11-2010, 08:35 PM   #1
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The KTM300 Thread

What can you tell me about this bike? I am looking at one for single track and fireroading - want to make it street legal. Who on here is riding one and what has been your experience?
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:09 PM   #2
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Great bike and it's mild to wild depending on the right wrist. If you're not used to 2 strokes, put the mild power valve spring in which will make the "hit" come on later in the rpm range...that will keep you from looping it on the first day like I did. Tons of power, and it tractors at a low rpm through mud and any terrain you choose. The xc-w models are a wide range, have single chamber forks for enduro and cc racing and are good for fire road stuff too. The xc is a racing / track bike with dual chamber forks for big landings...Both are great bikes and you can do anything on the planet with them...except go on the highway. I've heard of guys getting it past inspections and drive em on the road but why? Once you are up in the rpm range, it's wild and not smooth at all.

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Old 01-12-2010, 12:37 AM   #3
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Great bike and it's mild to wild depending on the right wrist. If you're not used to 2 strokes, put the mild power valve spring in which will make the "hit" come on later in the rpm range...that will keep you from looping it on the first day like I did...
+1000

I have an '09 300 XC-W, and that son-of-a-bitch almost killed me three weeks ago. That machine is no joke, and all business.

For the record, I am no "Bubba" Stewart. However, I am not a noob, either. I started riding dirt when I was 12 years old (39 now), have a good amount of 2-stroke experience, and have owned all types of bikes (Gen I. Hayabusa and Honda CR500, to name a couple).

If you choose to buy one, I would recommend (like heetseeker) that you use the auxiliary spring and ignition curve (connection) to tone it down on your first few outings (if you're not used to 2-strokes). I think it would be better for you to walk away from your first ride (a little disappointed), than to be airlifted away (unconscious).

With that out of the way, I will tell you that I absolutely love mine. Like heetseeker posted, it's a friggin' tractor. And, the power is very addictive. As far as the street-legal thing, I don't know...I bought mine strictly for dirt duty.

Taking all the information (that you gave) into account, I think you'd prefer the suspension and wide-ratio gearbox of the XC-W to the suspension and gearbox of the XC.

In my very humble opinion, if you want one, get one. I think you will enjoy it.

Good Luck.

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Old 01-12-2010, 06:14 PM   #4
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Great info -thanks. I am not looking for a bike to do much street riding, but if I need to duck into town to fuel up, I don't want to worry about ditching the cops. I have a 690r for longer trips, but it is just a little too heavy for tough single track riding.

I see lots of nice protection items for this bike - Hyde Racing makes a combination pipe/skid plate. It is plastic, but looks real nice - do you have any experience with it?

Sounds like a lot of bike - I did survive owning a TM400 Cyclone and a 450 Maico. My last 2-stroke was a KX500. I like the light weight of a 2 stroke, and am looking forward to one with a modern suspension
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:30 PM   #5
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I can tell you I'd love to have the street legal package they sell across the pond.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:03 PM   #6
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Keep it going, anyone?...

GasGas300,

I have not had any experience with the Hyde Racing piece that you mentioned.

By the way, if you liked your KX, you will love this BEAST.


Hey guys,

On a second note...

Since GasGas named this thread "The KTM300 Thread", would y'all be interested in trying to keep it going?...pictures...questions...the 300 "go-to" place for this forum.

I'd try my best to do my part...
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:35 PM   #7
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I can tell you I'd love to have the street legal package they sell across the pond.
My father-in law rides an older KTM 300. He's a madman at 79 but has slowed down enough in the last couple of years that I able to just keep up with on my 690e.

He is looking for a new 300 with electric start and wants to get it street legal in Colorado or Arizona. Can this be done in either state?

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Old 01-16-2010, 10:19 AM   #8
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I can tell you I'd love to have the street legal package they sell across the pond.
It is pretty easy to do with bits and pieces from KTM, TrailTech Enduro Engineering, and Sicass. Mine started out as a 2008 300 XC that had been raced by someone else.



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Old 08-07-2010, 01:55 PM   #9
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Great info -thanks. I am not looking for a bike to do much street riding, but if I need to duck into town to fuel up, I don't want to worry about ditching the cops. I have a 690r for longer trips, but it is just a little too heavy for tough single track riding.

I see lots of nice protection items for this bike - Hyde Racing makes a combination pipe/skid plate. It is plastic, but looks real nice - do you have any experience with it?

Sounds like a lot of bike - I did survive owning a TM400 Cyclone and a 450 Maico. My last 2-stroke was a KX500. I like the light weight of a 2 stroke, and am looking forward to one with a modern suspension
Ive used the Hyde combo pipe gaurd/skidplate,works great and makes the bike slide over logs and rocks easier then anything Ive tried,helps a lot with bashes to the pipe from the side as well. The 300 only goes as fast as you make it but can wear you out on real tight trail if your going fast,lotso boost!
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:46 PM   #10
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Great info -thanks. I am not looking for a bike to do much street riding, but if I need to duck into town to fuel up, I don't want to worry about ditching the cops. I have a 690r for longer trips, but it is just a little too heavy for tough single track riding.

I see lots of nice protection items for this bike - Hyde Racing makes a combination pipe/skid plate. It is plastic, but looks real nice - do you have any experience with it?

Sounds like a lot of bike - I did survive owning a TM400 Cyclone and a 450 Maico. My last 2-stroke was a KX500. I like the light weight of a 2 stroke, and am looking forward to one with a modern suspension
Ive tried the Hyde racing pipe gaurd/skidplate combo.its kinda ugly but works great,slides over logs easy,protects the pipe as well as anything can when bashing into rocks/logs/what ever. They tend to get melty in spots from touching the pipe but I didnt worry about it much.
Ive had 2 300's,both kicked ass and would tractor up anything then take off like a rocket when needed.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:04 PM   #11
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What can you tell me about this bike? I am looking at one for single track and fireroading - want to make it street legal. Who on here is riding one and what has been your experience?

If its main purpose is to enjoy single track ... get a 200 put a heavy flywheel
weight on it if you your a big tall fat guy get a the 250 that shares the 300's larger frame ...

http://ktmworld.com/news_articles/GN...P1/default.asp


I'm a believer in having a motor for what you need it for .. at my local KTM shop I'm told they have to fix countless 300's not because they are bad motors but because the guys that ride them lug the crap out of them in much higher gears needed ..(I think that might be small man syndrome needing the big 300)

if you want a street plate might need to find an older model with the title on it .. or try your luck at the DMV and bat your eyes at the girl working the counter and see if she or he whatever your into .. will street plate it for you ..
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:41 PM   #12
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I'm a believer in having a motor for what you need it for .. at my local KTM shop I'm told they have to fix countless 300's not because they are bad motors but because the guys that ride them lug the crap out of them in much higher gears needed ..(I think that might be small man syndrome needing the big 300)
First time I've heard of that... Plenty of luggers out here, & the bikes last darn near forever. Regardless of "manhood", the 300 works well in trials mode in more technical areas. I personally find the 200 to be a blast and a great tight woods bike, but to get the most out of it I find I have to be more on my game than riding a 250 or 300. I used to have a 250exc, ridden a 200xcw plenty of times, but the best overall fit was the 300. I like the motor for the "right" amount of torque, light weight, being able to ride "smooth" & conserve my energy on longer tougher rides.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:02 PM   #13
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Great bike! I have 950 miles on it, and its due for a new set of tires. I rode a 690 in the Colorado 500 last year, and this thing is going to be so much better. The hyde racing skid plate/pipe protector looks a little goofy, but works great.
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Old 08-08-2010, 12:50 AM   #14
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Let's see- "countless"? How many total 300's did KTM import into the states?

So, countless is 100? 200? Sounds like an epidemic.

So lugging a motor at low RPM is worse for it than 14,000 RPM constant?

I guess I am a big fat, tall guy. I like the 300-then again, I live a high altitudes.

Guess you better tell Slavens to check his manhood.

I like this thread. It is getting exciting!



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If its main purpose is to enjoy single track ... get a 200 put a heavy flywheel
weight on it if you your a big tall fat guy get a the 250 that shares the 300's larger frame ...

http://ktmworld.com/news_articles/GN...P1/default.asp


I'm a believer in having a motor for what you need it for .. at my local KTM shop I'm told they have to fix countless 300's not because they are bad motors but because the guys that ride them lug the crap out of them in much higher gears needed ..(I think that might be small man syndrome needing the big 300)

if you want a street plate might need to find an older model with the title on it .. or try your luck at the DMV and bat your eyes at the girl working the counter and see if she or he whatever your into .. will street plate it for you ..
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Let's see- "countless"? How many total 300's did KTM import into the states?

So, countless is 100? 200? Sounds like an epidemic.

So lugging a motor at low RPM is worse for it than 14,000 RPM constant?

I guess I am a big fat, tall guy. I like the 300-then again, I live a high altitudes.

Guess you better tell Slavens to check his manhood.

I like this thread. It is getting exciting!
Truly lugging ANY motor is bad for it, much more so than running it at higher rpms.
Wears out the bottom end much faster.

But since you know it all, I'm sure you already knew that.
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