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Old 02-12-2010, 02:30 PM   #1
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Custom GPS Cradles for select Garmins and SPOTs

Hi,

As users of the 60-series Garmin GPS's are probably aware, there are cradle mounting options from RAM and TOURATECH, and either of those cradles may serve. Some users, myself included, have noticed that while the RAM mounting system is a great system - at least it is in my opinion, that the cradles themselves can leave a little to be desired. So, I went ahead and made my own to keep the pesky GPS unit attached to my cockpit. Long story abbreviated, I made a few for some friends going off-road to Baja, and they reported that they were an improvement over the RAM cradles, certainly in terms of performance - no more premature ejections....Each one is made by me by hand using Kydex or Concealex materials, tools I have fabricated from scratch, and they take me a bit of time for each one. I haven't tooled for mass production and I do this more or less as a kitchen table home occupation effort.

If anybody wants a cradle, I'll sell you one for $75 and mail it to you CONUS USPS. You'll need to mail me a check. Free shipping remains in effect for ADVRider inmates, indefinitely. That is, free mailing US Postal Service, Flat Rate Priority Mail with USPS tracking to the continental United States addresses. International may be extra, but no UPS or FEDEX.

The power on/off button area is relieved for access and the buttons are easily navigable with a gloved hand. I've tested these new-improved cradles on my snowmobile on clapped-out trails in Idaho and Montana, and I really like it. I call it the "Buzz Bomb Cradle" because it's a Team Ruptured Buzzard effort. (RAM ball/diamond mount not included, but I send a pre-drilled reinforcement insert with two bolts and locknuts for mounting to the standard RAM ball/diamond.)

These are the kinds of things you will need (and supply for yourself - I don't sell these RAM mounts) to mount my CRADLE -

A RAM diamond plate with ball
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-dia...am-b-238u.html

The BUZZ BOMB Cradle is designed to connect to the RAM Diamond Plate on the back of the cradle. The diamond plate has a 1.0 inch diameter rubber ball connected at right angles to the plate, which connects directly to the 1 inch arm socket. You will also need the RAM arm socket...
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-med...am-b-201u.html

You will also need a way to get this onto your bike, and there a different ways to do that with the RAM system. A common mounting is on the handlebars using a setup like this...
http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-zin...m-b-231zu.html

Medium length arm kit:
https://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-cr...inch-ball.html or maybe,

Short length arm kit:
https://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-zi...-assembly.html

Thats the basics. There are so many options to "get your balls together" with RAM components that each rider needs to sort that out with their own bike. Different handlebar diameters take different sized U-bolts, so pay attention to your dimensions when shopping. But I will stress that the cradle I make is designed to work only with the RAM mount system. The adjustability and shock absorption and impact resistance of the RAM mounts help keep my cradles "bomb-proof." Mounting them any other way with any other components is specifically advised against. Please don't do that... it's a bad idea and it defeats a specific design feature/concept. Do not "hard mount" to anything without using the RAM mount system.

PM for further if interested, or post here. If BALDY runs a Garmin 60CSX and wants one, his is free.

Respectfully,

Dave Jankowsky
aka "Stovebolt"
Victor, Idaho

ALL CRADLES ARE DESIGNED TO BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RAM MOUNT SYSTEM AND MUST NOT BE MOUNTED IN ANY OTHER WAY! CUSTOMER MUST SUPPLY THEIR OWN RAM MOUNTS.

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE:

Garmin 60-Series Black Carbon Holstex
Garmin 78-Series Limited on hand availability - check with me
Garmin Montana Series Black Carbon Holstex
Both Generation SPOTS Black or (Gray fleck carbon KYDEX - discontinued color. Check with me for colors...)

All models remain $75 and I will pay to mail them to any ADV inmate within Continental United States via US Postal Service, Flat Rate Priority Mail, for free.
I don't take PayPal or credit cards.
Garmin Montana now available - September 2012

Montana - Carbon HOLSTEX

Garmin Montana on left and Garmin 60CSx on right - Carbon HOLSTEX

Montana and GEN1 SPOT

G60 and GEN1 SPOT

GEN1 and GEN2 SPOTs



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G78 on left and G60 on right, mounted up for display on Casper my Friendly Punkin. 2010 450 XC-W Six Days dream bike.




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Old 02-12-2010, 04:52 PM   #2
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great product

i have used one of the original prototypes and never had an issue loosing my GPS. sign me up for a new one out of that fancy material Janko!!!
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #3
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looks cool

if i didn't already have a TT one, i'd be on this!
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:03 AM   #4
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I am sure there are other riders out there that have seen their GPS skipping across the terra firma. Our group cannot be the only bunch. This cradle works very well, it does not block the SAT signal & holds your unit firmly,heh heh. We have had the misfortune of losing a GPS. There have been quite a few miles covered to miraculously find one.You can end that bullshit with the purchase of this cradle, we did. Excellent product Jenks, I want the sexy new model. Joe
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:26 AM   #5
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Very nice looking case.

Kydex has technical data showing it good for antenna domes (covers) in the 1.5Mhz region of the GPS signal

http://www.kydex.com/briefs/126.pdf

I did a quick google search and did not find technical data on Concealex. Might want to verify the RF properties before you go too far.
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:40 PM   #6
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RF transparency of Concealex

EdGear,

Thanks for looking at this and for the advice - much appreciated. And thanks for the look at my cradle and the encouragement.

You are correct about precautionary wisdom since the performance of an antenna can be affected by surrounding materials and I did check the Kydex in the field and in the available literature, and found similar performance characteristics reported as in the example provided in your link for Kydex. My intention is to provide a printed disclaimer with links printed that substantiate claims about RF transparency for liability concerns - since it covers a navigation device and all the itinerant legal reasons for that in the crystal ball.

I haven't had more than field testing joy yet though on the CONCEALEX research, and need to source some decent scientific documentation on that RF transparency issue, neutral dielectric effects with this material. So if you or anybody else comes across any such beef in the scientific literature and would care to point me to it, I would be grateful. I'm not a scientist and don't even play one on TV, and the importance of covering this base is obvious and shouldn't be overlooked, even at this stage of the game. I do appreciate you chiming in with this point.

My 60CSX gets a 9-bird lock within about 20 seconds with the CONCEALEX, no different than without a cradle, but will that stand up in court when somebody decides to sue me? Important stuff, to be sure. (Newer MTK chipset. Haven't wrapped the CONCEALEX around SIRFIII chipset'ed 60-series, but can't imagine any difference in chipset technology affecting the antenna performance - but then again, like I said - I'm not a scientist and ought to cover that base as well, now that I think about it.)

Thanks to all who have responded and for the encouragement.

I remain -

Sincerely yours,

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Very nice looking case.

Kydex has technical data showing it good for antenna domes (covers) in the 1.5Mhz region of the GPS signal

http://www.kydex.com/briefs/126.pdf

I did a quick google search and did not find technical data on Concealex. Might want to verify the RF properties before you go too far.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:07 PM   #7
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Stovey sorry I have been a slack ass I have just started a group buy thread!!

The first 60 series sale you get let me know and I will post my spare over 2 them!


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Old 11-14-2010, 08:12 PM   #8
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Leith,

Damn - you ARE a nice guy! thanks!
Leith is the man, everybody....

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Stovey sorry I have been a slack ass I have just started a group buy thread!!

The first 60 series sale you get let me know and I will post my spare over 2 them!


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Old 11-16-2010, 06:47 PM   #9
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:11 PM   #10
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Good Sir,

I am sorry to have to report that I still have not been able to tool for it, and that cradle is just over the horizon. I just composed a post for my brothers down in Australia, and it's here below, FYI. I WILL post up when I have that one ready for sale.

My continued sincere thanks for your interest, and I have you on my Garmin 62 list!

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Old 11-16-2010, 07:15 PM   #11
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Aussie Group Cradle Buy - via Leith

For my Australian Brothers on the group buy via DESERT STORM in the Regional Forums:


Hi you guys! Jeez - I'm blushing from all this respect and attention..... THANK YOU DESERT STORM and all you fine men down under. Salute from Stovey!

I just walked in the door from a long-ish winter commute home from work over an 8200-foot pass, and I have miles to go before I sleep, so if I don't reply again here tonight, I'm not ignoring anybody. I will of course subscribe to this thread and keep people posted. First, a few answers to a few of your questions.

I currently make cradles for only Garmin 60-Series (Cs, CSx, etc.) and the 78-Series which is the new marine handheld. The 62 is a new and different series, so no - I don't have that tooled up yet. Not the same unit/form factor as already mentioned by an astute GPS user on this thread. :-)


Price for either/any cradle I have is $80 US funds to Stovey per unit to Australia - with no tracking number provided. (See the post Leith quoted.) I need to talk with Desert Storm (Leith) about shipping and distribution though, so hang tight with me for just a short, short bit on that - umkay? And I'll have a solid back to you on that ASAP.

It would be great in the meanwhile, if everybody who is interested enough in this cradle to buy one, actually sat down (with a beer of course) and read my commercial ADVRider thread through. That way, when questions come up, we're covering new ground and this will courteously save and respect each others' time. I'm pleased and honored to answer any questions you may have, but please accept my invitation to read through that entire thread. Especially the parts where people say they love the cradle and they think I'm great.

When I am able to get a hold of a 62-series unit to tool up with, I will, and will post up.

Everybody who is bored to tears now go and read my recent ride report here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=630870

with video (iffy video, sorry)

or here on RDS forums with no video

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=630870


Here's my website for fun:

http://bustedcompass.com/

Here's my new bike build (still in progress, it only takes money....)

http://ridedualsport.com/forum/index.php?topic=1086.0

Here's me:





No, seriously - here I am:



(I'm the friendly chap on the right - just after de-noobing in Montana last July at the ADVRider MT1K Rally and Westfest.)

Thanks for all - I am truly humbled. I'll be back around soon! PM me in the meanwhile and I will get a reply back to you.

Sincerely,

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Old 09-28-2012, 04:18 PM   #12
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Any reason your spot cradle can't be used as a protective case on a person??

Still looking to get me one for my 60csx ..


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Old 09-28-2012, 08:11 PM   #13
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Good questions and viewpoints - THANK YOU!

Good question,

Answer/opinion - absolutely no reason not to use as a cage on the person or in luggage for protective purposes. There is every reason to "encapsulate" the device if so desired, with as much protection as you want to, and my cradle form factor would arguably 'hit a home run' in that regard. One would, however, strongly desire to NOT have a RAM ball attached to it while not needed in this example, as all that would do is give an unwieldy ball in your personal carry when not needed as a bar mount. It would seem to be a fairly hardened and true protective option otherwise. I'd say, it might make out better off than a soft human tissue argument with a tree, or a guardrail, or a moose, or any other "bump in the trail" or battlefield than if left alone. The Garmins are pretty sturdy units, in my opinion, and so are the other GPS manufactured units and SPOTS, in and of themselves. But naked on the dashboard, and in crashes, and just unprotected - they are relatively more protected in a full-on cradle than not.

Can't beat logic...

...unless of course, you can!

Anyway, my two cents and thanks for the questions and interest. Your opinions and viewpoints are appreciated and valid.

Many thanks, and

Rally on,

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Still looking to get me one for my 60csx ..


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Old 11-12-2013, 02:13 PM   #14
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Stovey,

I purchased a cradle for my 60csx in the past.

I'am updating to a Garmin Montana.

Do you still carry a cradle for it.

Thanks
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:17 PM   #15
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Hi Wayne!

Yes, and I have a couple on hand to send you one. Shoot me a PM with your current good USPS mailing address and I'll get one coming to you. They are all still $75, mailing included to inmates.

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Stovey,

I purchased a cradle for my 60csx in the past.

I'am updating to a Garmin Montana.

Do you still carry a cradle for it.

Thanks
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