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Old 04-04-2010, 07:58 PM   #1
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My Honda Elite 150 experimentation thread, jump in!

Okay guys & gals, I've jumped into the scootering scene...

She's a '85 Elite 150 I snagged for $600. I've been told that I got a good deal... Of course I'm an ex car salesman & tight ass at heart!

So anyways, ladies & gents, I could use a bit of help here being new to all this twist & go stuff. I'm mechanically inclined & she runs out pretty decent I think.

In the past day I've topped off the tires, changed the oil, adjusted the brakes, put a couple ounces of seafoam in the tank, taken off the right mirror (useless anyways) & the top case. I've also rode about 200 miles already! I've just got a few things to tackle I believe...

Any help greatly appreciated!

First off, I weigh maybe 150lbs & can barely get 55 topped out. Of course this is on flat ground, not tucked in & I live in Kansas, which means I'm almost always fighting some sort of wind. I tucked in today & got over 60 but as soon as I sat back up I was down to 55 again. I'm expecting a bit more. Is this about right?

I'm getting between 55 & 60 mpg abouts... Once again, I was expecting more. Is this average economy?

The plug is WHITE... So I need a bigger main. What carb does this thing have & what's the jetting stock for reference?

From what I've read, I understand that the biggest bang for the buck performance wise is getting those Dr pulley weights. I read another thread where somebody got 11 gram ones & says it made a huge difference. Anybody care to chime in on this?

So here's my idear... Figure out what carb I got & order a couple bigger jets to get a nice light brown plug. While I've got the carb out, tighten up the throttle cable to make sure I'm getting WOT. Once I see what that does, I'll order the Dr pulleys & get a new belt (I figure the one in it is probably original & therefore needs replaced... Wait, this does have some sort of belt right? I'm just assuming here...) At that point, if I can cruise at a solid 55 - 60, I'll be happy.

I'm not looking to go down the highway at 70, I've avoided them at all cost so far. Just being able to go down country black tops at 55 - 60 (keeping that speed up hills & into the wind is what I mean by 'solid') & not have cages crawling up my ass would be nice.

Brainstorm with me! Idears? Comments? A swift kick in the ass? Anything?
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:20 PM   #2
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I think your speed is reasonable. It have gotten yourself a fine scoot. Looks like you have a much better handle on mechanical then I. On my Helix 1986 the intake manifold cracked changing the mixture and blowing a head gasket. seems it is typical for the older machines. a replacement would have saved me so much cost and time as I ended up replacing the engine.
It would be good to go to a site on the web and see what problems have popped up for others with elite 150's. Have fun with your new scoot. It is an antique.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:33 PM   #3
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your speed is correct. i wouldnt expect to gain anymore speed out of a 150cc without increasing displacement.

check your tires for dry rot and check your valve stems if they are the rubber ones.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:35 PM   #4
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Nice Elite. You may end up putting that box back on soon as it is a great storage place. Also the mirror is helpful. 55mph sounds about right for the Elite 150. I weigh a little less than you do and mine does about 63(on the screen, GPS is about 59). That is with the carb way over jetted and a uni filter stuck right on the carb. You don't want to mess with it too much, they last damn near forever in stock form. Also, do much with the jets and air flow and loose the fuel milage. I get about 40mpg, not good at all. Check out the rollers and replace if needed, also might be a good time for a new belt. Don't buy a chinese carb for it off ebay, they are crap. Ive got one that i really had no other choice since i couldn't find the stock one(my fault for removing and letting it sit for a few years). Ive got 2 stockers off junk bikes now that im going to rework and use. Im going back to stock jetting and air filter.

Please for the sake of a very pretty scooter, don't mess it up. Its hard to find them that nice anymore. The red colour is nice. To me they don't look right without that box since mine has always had one on it.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:24 AM   #5
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you could fit an elite 250 engine in it but 55 is about tops for for elite 250. If you go over to yahoo groups there is one that deals with 125 and 150. Nice find worth about 1300.00 to the right person. Stock air cleaner is something that can be changed out. You could cut your own wind screen out of Lexicon plastic.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:34 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by trying59
You could cut your own wind screen out of Lexicon plastic.
Do you have a link please? I've got a CH125 with no windscreen and they're like hen's teeth here in the UK. I did Google but didn't find anything related.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:42 PM   #7
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My '87 Elite 150 will do a little over 60 mph indicated, give or take a mile or two per hour, depending on wind speed/direction. I weight around 230-ish geared up. My nephew swears he gets a couple of mph faster driving it, but then he only weighs 160.

I went with the Dr. Pulley sliders, and they definitely improved acceleration. I forget the weight I used, but it seems to me they were only about a gram lighter than stock each. I believe they were 11 grams. Expect a little rattling noise out of them.

You mentioned in an earlier post that your Elite had trouble idling when cold. Clean your carb thoroughly. Change your final drive oil. Replace your plug and your air filter. Wouldn't hurt to change your intake rubber. They can crack, and that can lead to a very lean-running condition, as Windburn mentioned. Mine was cracked at 2800 miles. If your belt's worn, it'll affect top speed, but I don't believe they need to be replaced until at least 8-10k miles.
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Old 04-10-2010, 12:43 PM   #8
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