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Old 05-16-2010, 10:23 AM   #1
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Cop shoots rider in back during traffic stop.

I am not sure which forum this should go in but it is something everybody including cops should be aware of.
Video of the shooting.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...cal&id=7433661


News story about the final verdict.
http://www.toledoblade.com/article/2...40348/-1/rss10

On the other motorcycle forum that I spend a lot of time on the story was removed because it caused a lot of arguing between cops and citizens. I did not see one cop that said the cop was wrong.
I wish every cop in the country and every private citizen in the country was aware of this case. The cops need to be aware there can be consequences for their rash decisions and private citizens need to be more aware not to do anything that can be misinterpreted
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:37 AM   #2
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He needs to go away for longer than 11 years from what I know watching the video, this looks like an unprovoked shooting. Christ how much danger was he in, the rider was facing away from him the entire time!
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:48 AM   #3
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I am not sure which forum this should go in but it is something everybody including cops should be aware of.
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Late to the Party and wrong forum.


Already beat to death here.
Kind of Ironic that it was your 205th post.




http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578784
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:54 AM   #4
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Late to the Party and wrong forum.

Already beat to death here.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578784
I'm sure somebody that knows will put it where it should be. Maybe somebody that missed it in fluff( where I spend absolutely no time) will see it and learn something.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:52 AM   #5
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That has to be one of the most disgusting displays of "law enforcement" I have ever seen.

That cop had his weapon drawn and was ready to fire well before the rider moved. The court evidence also shows he didn't follow procedure but went straight for his weapon. He deserves life imprisonment for attempted murder.

The rider, at the very least, deserves to sue the dept into oblivion.

Typical cops - never admit they are wrong.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:56 AM   #6
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Wow.
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Old 05-16-2010, 02:20 PM   #7
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That cop should have known better. That young man was never doing anything that might be considered suspicious and never tried to turn or something. So Police man....should be punished and badly.

On the other hand I can see that many police man in US are killed in this kind of situation. SO when someone stops you in the night, with sirens be careful...show your open hands at all the times, no sudden movements. This way no one is going to shoot you....hopefully ....

Back again to this cop...yes he should be pronounced guilty..he needed to be more careful. The gun that you carry gives you power and it comes with commitments that you should obey...

To bad for that young man...I feel really sorry for him....
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Old 05-16-2010, 02:52 PM   #8
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The charges to me don't seem to be appropriate. If I a common citizen were to shoot someone in the back in similar circumstances, I'd expect attempted murder, and a few more. Felonious assault and a weapons charge? Seems kinda light to me.
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:15 PM   #9
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From the video it looks like the LEO did not mean to shoot. I think he drew his gun accidentally shot...freaked holstered is gun then re-drew it as he stepped into camera view.

LEO definitely screwed up.

11 years seems in line with the general public to me.

Sucks all around.
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:32 PM   #10
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That poor young man.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:32 PM   #11
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From the video it looks like the LEO did not mean to shoot. I think he drew his gun accidentally shot...freaked holstered is gun then re-drew it as he stepped into camera view.

LEO definitely screwed up.

11 years seems in line with the general public to me.

Sucks all around.
How do you "accidently" draw a weapon, cock it, point it at someone and pull the trigger???
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:03 PM   #12
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Isn't this super old? Or am I thinking of a different episode...
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:07 PM   #13
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:39 AM   #14
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I am a LEO, and I remember seeing that video very shortly after it went public.

And, I remember saying "he phucked up". There was no justification that I could see for that (part time volunteer) Officer to fire his weapon.

A standard that must be met when determining whether or not certain actions are justified is "would a reasonable person have reacted in a similar manner?". Well, a group of probably 20 of us watched the video..and OUR answer to that question was a resounding "NO".

Millions of dollars cannot replace what that man had wrongly taken away from him.
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I am a LEO, and I remember seeing that video very shortly after it went public.
Thank you for speaking the truth, regardless of of your LEO status. yes he did screw up. The guys on the bikes should have stopped, I am not buying the story that his glasses prevented him from seeing the lights, but once stopped, thats it. The worst they did was speed. The leo got out of the vehicle with his gun drawn since they said it was 3 seconds till he fired.

You said he was a volunteer, meaning not paid? I am shocked.
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