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Old 10-25-2010, 02:17 AM   #1
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Cool2 Site for comparing the riding position of motorcycles

http://cycle-ergo.com

Updates 11/11/2010:

* Separate manufacturer/model list

Updates 11/1/2010:

* Corrected leg and thigh proportions
* Added inseam, finally!
* Added ground reach!
* New domain name

I created a little web app to very roughly estimate the riding position for different bikes given the rider's height and arm bend. It uses a stick-figure which essentially has no volume but it works well enough for comparison purposes.

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You can configure multiple bikes, then move the mouse over the image and use your mouse scroll wheel to smoothly blend from one to the next, which makes comparing different bikes very easy, or even comparing the same bike with and without handlebar risers for example.

I do plan on adding some more functionality and certainly the motorcycle selection is fairly thin - if you want any bike featured here, just ask and I'll add it. I prefer not to add many older models just to avoid clutter. Also I need to locate a side-view press shot for each bike added.

Let me know if you have any issues, suggestions, etc.a

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Old 10-25-2010, 02:23 AM   #2
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Honestly........

I could spend YEARS playing with this thing! It is GENIUS! Why doesn't every manufacturer have one of these on their website! Copy write it before they all steal it mate!

GENIUS!

The only suggestion I can think of is to allow adjustment of the rider's inseam measurement, thus allowing a reasonable simulation of leg length vs torso length, but even so, I just think this is fantastic! Good work!
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:24 AM   #3
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Brilliant.

Can you include a Hayabusa and a ZX14?
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:37 AM   #4
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Both are now added.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:12 AM   #5
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WOW, that is soooooo COOL!
I just plugged in the information of me astride my Bandit 1250, with my bar-backs and lowered saddle!!! And because I had a visual of what I look like on a bike that I mod'ed to fit me, I was able to compare my seating position to other bikes! Not only that, but imagine my surprise when your app' pulled no punches, and flashed a big warning, "legs to short to reach the pegs" on a V-Rod Nightster..... and that's right, ..... I come no where near being able to reach 'em!

40 years of sitting on dozens and dozens of bikes, and I still seek the Golden Chalice of bikes (unattainable, only dreamed of)...... You see, seating position for me is a matter of "deal with it" or 'stick some bar-backs on it, chop the seat down, and stop yer complaining'.

What I am leading up to, the single most overlooked aspect.... is seating/bike width/foot peg position, and reaching the ground from the saddle. This is a minor issue for about 80%+- of the riders out there, but when one's height and muscular structure is not in the "normal" range, finding a good fit is a matter of trial & effort and inevitable modification.

I'm 5' 1" with THICK Welsh/German/Irish muscular thighs, T-Rex arms, and virtually no inseam. Hell..... about the ONLY bike I fit well might be a Buell Blast!
- BUT -
I continue to shop for and seek the "perfect" bike that I can kinda make fit me. Your web app is soooooo cool, and I've studied the measurements of various seating positions as published in different magazines, but they don't allow me to 'visualize' MY specifics as seen astride the bike. I love it, and look forward to being able to use your app' to help me verify that though the Golden Chalice is not out there for me, I can at least settle on a wooden mug that comes close......

If you could add an option that indicates whether an inseam can reach the ground from the saddle, and if the foot pegs are in the way or not, THAT would be VERY cool and useful for shorter enthusiasts like me.....

(I currently own/ride a Bandit 1250 and naked SV650, both with bar-backs, both with cut down/narrowed saddles)

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Old 10-25-2010, 10:17 AM   #6
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If you could add an option that indicates whether an inseam can reach the ground from the saddle, and if the foot pegs are in the way or not, THAT would be VERY cool and useful for shorter enthusiasts like me....
There's no way to guess at this. Ground reach depends not just on seat height and rider inseam but also on seat width, shape, foot size, thigh thickness (as you mentioned), the boots you're wearing, and even the pants you're wearing. I can't even add a naive ground-reach estimator just to help guess which bikes would have better ground reach than others, because of the unknown seat shape and width. Dished seats like cruisers often have significantly impair ground reach as opposed to normal saddles like standard bikes have.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:18 AM   #7
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:25 AM   #8
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Why don't you bring this up to the manufacturers....great idea!.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:38 AM   #9
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The only suggestion I can think of is to allow adjustment of the rider's inseam measurement, thus allowing a reasonable simulation of leg length vs torso length, but even so, I just think this is fantastic! Good work!
I'll definitely be adding inseam, probably at the same time I implement feet (right now it places your heel on the footpeg) and lift up the rider to position him on the seat correctly (hips and legs should join a few inches above the seat).
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:54 AM   #10
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Outstanding

This is really great work. It will really help a lot of the inmates here. Thanks for taking the time to do this, and having the skills, too.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:01 AM   #11
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That is superb. I was amazed how close the R1200RT and FJR1300 position was - the FJR is a lot more upright than I thought.

You really need the Suzuki VStrom in there.

And I'd love to see the old GL1200 Goldwing.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:31 PM   #12
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Very cool! Any chance of adding the 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 1000? Be nice to be able to compare it to the Bandit 1250 and FZ-1.

Thanks!
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:26 AM   #13
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Great app. A RC8 would be great as an addition.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:29 AM   #14
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Thanks for sharing your application. I always thought it would be great to have a way to compare riding positions on different bikes, and your program does it perfectly.

Forgot to ask: Any chance you could add a few more models:
2010 Kawasaki Z1000 naked
2011 Kawasaki Z1000S faired
2011 Triumph Tiger 800

It would be great if you actually added a model request link right on the model comparison programs main page for anyone who visit the website from elsewhere on the web. Thanks again, awesome job!

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Old 10-28-2010, 06:50 AM   #15
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GREAT!!!!

I would love if you added inseam input as well! Since that's a major concern.. I can only ride about 2 of the bikes in the list. (can you add the Monster 696?)

Being able to see the stick figure with the legs down instead of bent would be awesome too!

I'm going to be playing with this thing alllll day!
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