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Old 03-24-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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Vintage MX, vintage body and bike

The story of a man and machine and his love for dirt bikes....
Ok... 1st race of the season in 8 days, alot to do to get ready! A Little background first.
I raced in District 34 in the 70's and quit in about 77? I didn't see a motorcycle for about 20 years while I grew my family and business but the love for the sport never left my mind. As my kids got a little older and had a bit of money I bought a BMW K75 from Q in Thornwood NY and although I loved it my heart was in the dirt. So I had a few GS's after that and did a bit of touring but could never stay off the dirt roads and my eye's were always on the woods....
I bought a Husky TE 400? figuring that some time in the woods would quench my motocross thirst but it only made me want to race again even more, so i did what any muture responsible person would do and purchased a KTM 520 mx bike because I always enjoyed the open class. Not a great bike to come back to the sport on but I did have fun on it and I started to learn MX which had changed quite a bit since the 70's....There were jumps! big ones!
I told my older brother that we were going to race again and that if his wife had a problem with it I would be happy to talk to here about it!
Well we both did start to ride again but those jumps were so intimedating that we just couldn't do them because in our minds the bikes still had 4" travel and we would certainely die if we came up short! So we took a lesson from a local pro who promptly told me I was way to fat to be doing MX and basically we were pussies for not doing them. There was a small double on the kids track that was maybe 8' apart that I just could not do so he stood on top of it and screamed at me until I did.

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Old 03-24-2011, 04:58 PM   #2
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So now I am to fat(220?), to old (45 or so) and a pussy so how was I gonna do this? Well what little testoterone I had in me kicked in and I started to ride a lot more, work out and lose weight.
I also figured out that a smaller bike like a 250 fourstroke would make it easier than rastlin a 520 KTM and I started racing AMA dist 34 in NY,that was about 2004. I didn't know anybody at the track, I wanted to throw up all day long because I was so nervous but I just kept doing it and getting faster and losing weight.
I was racing a +40 novice class and I would see the same people at the finish line either right in back or front of me so I started to remember faces as we all were about the same speed. I would see the same guys at the open practices on Wednesday and wait on the side of the track and try to "engage" some competition so I could measure my speed against there's. I started to get comfortable on the bike and I started to get back in shape....
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:09 PM   #3
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There is a quote from somebody that says:
I'd rather be a racer for a day than a spectator for life....

While the racing was starting to get good in Dist 34 NY at the time there were 7-800 riders in a day while racing only one class you stood around for hours waiting for your races, I wasn't comfortable enough to race the +30 class as they were all "kids" and who would want to race kids? But ther was a vintage class that looked pretty cool so I started to ask around about that.

My brother and I raced Bultaco's in the 70's so my research lead my back to Hugh's Bultaco that was still in business and in the same upstate NY location. Hugh and Tim Weaver are some of the nicest people you will meet in your life and know EVERYTHING Bultaco.... so a few grand later I was vintage racing.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:12 PM   #4
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This is a pic that Flug took a couple years ago after I learned to jump and say no to a second slice of pizzia

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Old 03-24-2011, 05:18 PM   #5
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The Vintage racing is great!
After becoming somewhat unhappy with the AMA racing I found a racing series called ACRMX (www.ACRMX.com)
which is a spin off from AHRMA but is more about racing than having the perfect "period correct" bike and the racing just being fun! Kinda like when we raced in the 70's.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:25 PM   #6
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:25 AM   #7
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I'd rather be a racer for a day than a spectator for life....
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never heard this one before but a worthy life long mantra for sure....


awesome thread so far!





cant wait for a bit more of it!




and we gotta get you a decent camera!

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Old 03-30-2011, 10:33 AM   #8
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pvangel,
Was great reading your rebuild thread on your sons bike on TT. Great reading more of the story over here

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Old 03-30-2011, 01:59 PM   #9
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pvangel,
Was great reading your rebuild thread on your sons bike on TT. Great reading more of the story over here

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Thanks!

recieved this email today, pretty good!




Who was Stanley Woods?

In 1923, Who Was:

1. President of the largest steel company?

2.. President of the largest gas company?

3. President of the New York stock Exchange?

4. Greatest wheat speculator?

5. President of the Bank of International Settlement?

6. Great Bear of Wall Street?



These men were considered some of the world’s most successful of their days..

Now, 88 years later, the history book asks us, if we know what ultimately became of them..

The Answers:


1. The president of the largest steel company.
Charles Schwab, died a pauper.

2. The president of the largest gas company, Edward Hopson, went insane.

3. The president of the NYSE, Richard Whitney, was released from prison to die at home.

4. The greatest wheat speculator, Arthur Cooger, died abroad penniless.

5. The president of the Bank of International Settlement, shot himself.

6 The Great Bear of Wall Street, Cosabee Livermore, also committed suicide



However, In that same year, 1923, the winner of the world’s most important road race, the Isle of Man T.T., was
Stanley Woods.

What became of him?

He won 10 T.T. races between 1923 and 1939, He lived on the Isle of Man and rode motorcycles all his life. He lapped the island circuit at 82 mph in 1957 (The Golden Jubilee) aged 54. He was a wealthy man when he died aged 90.

The Moral:
Fuck work,
Ride motorcycles!














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Old 04-04-2011, 07:10 AM   #10
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:56 PM   #11
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The story of a man and machine and his love for dirt bikes....

I raced in District 34 in the 70's...

As my kids got a little older and had a bit of money I bought a BMW and although I loved it my heart was in the dirt...
... MX which had changed quite a bit since the 70's....There were jumps! big ones!
where do I start. I stopped riding in 82 (unplanned) marriage (unplanned) navy (unplanned) kid (unplanned) and after discharge from the navy in 89 (unplanned) (honorable!) the years started to roll by. I never stopped thinking about dirt bikes. never. the GS was a tease. great bike but road riding is masturbation with a helmet on I don't care how many miles you do at the end of the day you still didn't really do it.

and the years rolled by. I can still do it. I can still do it. I know I can do it....

2009 gee open practice on the WR in the mud.

things you took for granted when younger suddenly became very intense. I tire kicked at Moroneys for years. Still do. I watched the 4 strokes hit the floors and the 2 strokes (mostly) vanish.

Honda dropped the CR 125.

there ought to be a law.


I used to reason, if I went into Moroneys and they said "we're sick of seeing you, take any bike and get out and don't come back"

where would I ride it? all our old haunts were gone. hay fields now housing developments.

our private mowed practice facility the aqueduct. sure go ahead just be ready to out run a helo or a sheriff on a quad after about 15 minutes.

who would I ride with? they all hung it up 30 years ago!!!

what if I go to a race alone and get hurt?

what if I go to a race with someone and get hurt?

I figure with a little practice (or lot) I can still ride fast enough to get hurt really bad. but I'm still going back out one way or another. The 2008 WR Yamaha should have been a YZ 125. Mistake bike that was. Should have just done it. Give it hell pvangel, I just dumped $1500 sunday on a new lens.

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Old 03-30-2011, 05:41 AM   #12
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road riding is masturbation with a helmet on I don't care how many miles you do at the end of the day you still didn't really do it.
Totally agree Flug

A friend of mine, a guy named Ken Smith was a Honda sponsored guy back in the 70's that one day hung everything up. He made a comeback last year after 18yrs away and kicked ass.... amazing. He just turned 50 and plans to attack even harder this year
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:49 AM   #13
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I wise man once told me that " you have to have a passion in life, can't be work and it can't be a women"
My wife of 28 years supports me in whatever I do and is truly a great women but my passion was my business wich turned into a death sentence. After 30 yrs it was more about accounts receivable's and Workers Comp Insurance and audits and breakdowns and just more stress in my life than I needed, I drank, chewed tabacco, was fat and out of shape. I woke up one morning and told my wife I was selling the business (which did not go over well at first) and doing something else!

I chose quality of life over quantity, My passion is MX and I want to be able to ride once or twice a week. My family comes first but this is trully second on my list, I'm 51 what am i gonna do wait till i'm 60 to start?

The guy who graduates from Harvard in last is given the biggest applause because he has the same piece of paper that the person in the top of the class has....I wanna graduate last at Harvard....
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I wise man once told me that " you have to have a passion in life, can't be work and it can't be a women"
My wife of 28 years supports me in whatever I do and is truly a great women but my passion was my business wich turned into a death sentence. After 30 yrs it was more about accounts receivable's and Workers Comp Insurance and audits and breakdowns and just more stress in my life than I needed, I drank, chewed tabacco, was fat and out of shape. I woke up one morning and told my wife I was selling the business (which did not go over well at first) and doing something else!

I chose quality of life over quantity, My passion is MX and I want to be able to ride once or twice a week. My family comes first but this is trully second on my list, I'm 51 what am i gonna do wait till i'm 60 to start?

The guy who graduates from Harvard in last is given the biggest applause because he has the same piece of paper that the person in the top of the class has....I wanna graduate last at Harvard....
+1 on that !!!
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