Tiger 800 panniers ?

jphish · 07-17-2011, 05:57 PM

Stock Tiger sidecases are OK - but I want something a bit more robust / sturdy for the adventure side of things. (that includes the occassional 'nap' that the kitty's like to take when ridden in such a way that makes them want to lay down) So 'aftermarket' is finally starting to catch up. Both Happy Trails & SW Motech have panniers & brackets (their brackets will also fit a multitude of other cases) So which way have you gone & what was your criteria ?

LoriKTM · 07-17-2011, 07:40 PM

Jesse is also making racks and luggage for the Tigers. Very sturdy, lockable, and spacious. Several thousand miles on our two sets and no issues whatsoever. http://www.xplorermoto.com/o2triumph.html

stevedo · 07-17-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LoriKTM

Jesse is also making racks and luggage for the Tigers. Very sturdy, lockable, and spacious. Several thousand miles on our two sets and no issues whatsoever. http://www.xplorermoto.com/o2triumph.html

They look awfully close to the passenger grab handles, especially on the left hand side. Could you comment on how they work with a passenger on board.

Thanks

Andylaser · 07-18-2011, 12:44 AM

I have fitted the SW Motech quick release frames. They will spend most of their time in the shed unused, so I wont have to cary around extra weight.

The jury is still out rearding what panniers to fit, but Caribou are looking the most likely as they are pretty much indestructable.

neparider · 09-07-2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andylaser

I have fitted the SW Motech quick release frames. They will spend most of their time in the shed unused, so I wont have to cary around extra weight.

The jury is still out rearding what panniers to fit, but Caribou are looking the most likely as they are pretty much indestructable.

Can any of you FF's tell me if the SWMotech racks will have a set of Pelicans symmetrical on the XC? I see on TT's site that they show Two different capacities boxes to allow for the Exhaust side (smaller)?

Any body have a tail pic with the Pelicans/Caribou with SWMotech?

Tim

jphish · 07-17-2011, 08:30 PM

Thanks Lori - one more 'possible' to add to list.

Cos · 07-17-2011, 10:02 PM

For the "adventure" side of things, i'd be thinking soft bags, not hard bags.

Mercury264 · 07-19-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cos

For the "adventure" side of things, i'd be thinking soft bags, not hard bags.

+1

I just don't trust hard bags, even Pelicans, when Kitty decides to take a nap.

E-town dirt dude · 07-17-2011, 10:11 PM

I bought the Triumph cases and think the plastic crossmember looks very flimsy. I hope there is an aftermarket company that can fabricate a new (metal replacement) that will still allow for mounting of the stock cases and top mounts

jphish · 07-18-2011, 08:17 AM

I have soft panniers (Ortlieb) but still need rack system to keep 'em off the hot pipe. They are pretty good for many things - but not for all. When I say adventure - I mean camping / fishing trips on dirt gravel USFS / BLM roads - not single track. Am leaning towards Happy Trails rack & Holan 40 L cases (if available) for the long haul. My trips are typically 3-4K mi - need capacity for 'creature comforts' (camping gear / flyrods / food) & sturdy enough to weather the terrain / conditions we encounter. Still interested in others experience though. Was considering SW MotechTraX cases, but the "parallel universe" board had one thread that was not very complementary on the 'system' or its durability. Perhaps the new EVO models have corrected the issues - maybe not. E-towns comment on the 'flimsy' nature of the Triumph rack system is one of the reasons I'm moving to something else. I think for general use they are fine - Just dont see the plastic holding up to any abuse - & given the roads we travel, I will at some point have a 'tip over'... possibly even while in motion.

Dr. Greg · 07-18-2011, 09:01 AM

My acquisition of a new Tiger 800 XC hinges on the availability of top-loading panniers (and top box). I have a month left in the summer for traveling, and every place I've checked re luggage replies the same: NOT IN STOCK.

Yet owners seem to be getting luggage somewhere...thanks for any help.

--Doc

jphish · 07-18-2011, 10:06 AM

Hey Doc - You're ready to 'ride the tiger' ? Cool! I think you'll like 'em. DO get some 20mm (at least) risers though - the stock bar setting, even for us shorter folk, is really uncomfortable. You're smart 'passing' on the Triumph luggage - I cant see it surviving much abuse. It ain't much...but heres what I know so far: Happy Trails does have a symetrical SU rack system (currently available) than will fit any pannier, that has a flat unadorned mounting surface. The rack sticks out equally on both sides so you DONT order different size cases to accomodate exhaust. There is room on non-exhaust side for MSR bottle, tool kit, whatever. It has its pros / cons but I can live with that. I'm definatly getting their pannier rack system and tail platform for my drybag. (I had HT racks / cases on my KLR that ended up being large 'frame sliders' with no significant damage under serious abuse - they make really tough / high quality stuff. I wish they made a more aesthetically pleasing pannier...but havent ruled them out entirerly yet) Called Holan to inquire about 2 - 40L cases. No word back. My riding partner waited over 4 months last year for his 800GS panniers from them. Pretty poor business model - hopefully improved by now. TraX EVO 37L sidecases appear to be available & might be my next choice, but waiting to hear back on the improvements over the previous models & if compatible with HT racks. Twisted throttle has been pretty good to deal with & are very responsive. Jessies are also an option, they ARE durable - my buddy has them on his 12GS & 'Lori KTM' also recommends them. Not sure about availability tho - havent checked yet. Pelican or Cariboo (I forget which) does now have top loaders - reportedly pretty tough. But they look more like plastic garbage cans without wheels (as some pundit surmised) - tho I don't think they're that bad. Anyway - thats as far as my research takes me so far. Will let you know of further developments as I hear back from folks. Chow' j

neparider · 07-19-2011, 02:23 PM

I need to find the rack that will allow me to hang the givi's or the pelicans. The pelicans we're acquired thru the fire service. read free.

Caribou had the adapters that i can attach to them and allow for the Givi type attachment.
My question is, Do I have to buy Givi specific racks, still being developed, or will other manufacture's work?

Yossarian™ · 08-23-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neparider

My question is, Do I have to buy Givi specific racks, still being developed, or will other manufacture's work?

The SW Motech racks can be ordered with Givi mounts. That's how I'm leaning.

jphish · 07-19-2011, 05:40 PM

Neparider - I've been on so many sights looking for panniers, its all a psychotic jumble at the moment. However...either Happy Trails or SW Motech (cant remember which for sure - but think HT) has hardware kit for mounting Givi's to their rack. I think HT makes the toughest racks out there - so hope it's them. I see you traded in your 'Hooligan beast' on the 800. I had an 08' Uly X I sold in May to get my 800. Glad I made the swap, but do miss the canyon carving abilities of the XB12X. A pretty good adventure machine she was. j

07-17-2011, 05:57 PM	#1
jphish ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tumwater Wa Oddometer: 596	Tiger 800 panniers ? Stock Tiger sidecases are OK - but I want something a bit more robust / sturdy for the adventure side of things. (that includes the occassional 'nap' that the kitty's like to take when ridden in such a way that makes them want to lay down) So 'aftermarket' is finally starting to catch up. Both Happy Trails & SW Motech have panniers & brackets (their brackets will also fit a multitude of other cases) So which way have you gone & what was your criteria ?

07-17-2011, 07:40 PM	#2
LoriKTM Wrecking Ball Joined: May 2006 Location: New Mexico Oddometer: 1,501	Jesse is also making racks and luggage for the Tigers. Very sturdy, lockable, and spacious. Several thousand miles on our two sets and no issues whatsoever. http://www.xplorermoto.com/o2triumph.html __________________ MDR2011 Ride Report AMA, BRC 2008 Street Triple, 2011 Tiger 800XC, 2007 DR650, 2007 TE250, 2001 G-G280

07-18-2011, 12:44 AM	#4
Andylaser Heavy Metal Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Southampton UK Oddometer: 733	I have fitted the SW Motech quick release frames. They will spend most of their time in the shed unused, so I wont have to cary around extra weight. The jury is still out rearding what panniers to fit, but Caribou are looking the most likely as they are pretty much indestructable. __________________ Sent from my binary data processing apparatus using magic and wires OLD SKOOL HEAVY METAL Andylaser screwed with this post 07-18-2011 at 01:30 PM

07-17-2011, 10:11 PM	#9
E-town dirt dude Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: edmonton Oddometer: 179	I bought the Triumph cases and think the plastic crossmember looks very flimsy. I hope there is an aftermarket company that can fabricate a new (metal replacement) that will still allow for mounting of the stock cases and top mounts __________________ All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

07-18-2011, 09:01 AM	#11
Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home.. Joined: Nov 2005 Location: ABQ, New Mexico Oddometer: 910	I'll second JPhish's request... My acquisition of a new Tiger 800 XC hinges on the availability of top-loading panniers (and top box). I have a month left in the summer for traveling, and every place I've checked re luggage replies the same: NOT IN STOCK. Yet owners seem to be getting luggage somewhere...thanks for any help. --Doc __________________ 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200S (RIP...but REBORN) 2006 Buell XB12X Ulysses 2000 Kawasaki KLX300R 1992 Ducati 900SS

07-17-2011, 08:30 PM	#6
jphish ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tumwater Wa Oddometer: 596	Thanks Lori - one more 'possible' to add to list.

07-18-2011, 08:17 AM	#10
jphish ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tumwater Wa Oddometer: 596	I have soft panniers (Ortlieb) but still need rack system to keep 'em off the hot pipe. They are pretty good for many things - but not for all. When I say adventure - I mean camping / fishing trips on dirt gravel USFS / BLM roads - not single track. Am leaning towards Happy Trails rack & Holan 40 L cases (if available) for the long haul. My trips are typically 3-4K mi - need capacity for 'creature comforts' (camping gear / flyrods / food) & sturdy enough to weather the terrain / conditions we encounter. Still interested in others experience though. Was considering SW MotechTraX cases, but the "parallel universe" board had one thread that was not very complementary on the 'system' or its durability. Perhaps the new EVO models have corrected the issues - maybe not. E-towns comment on the 'flimsy' nature of the Triumph rack system is one of the reasons I'm moving to something else. I think for general use they are fine - Just dont see the plastic holding up to any abuse - & given the roads we travel, I will at some point have a 'tip over'... possibly even while in motion.

07-18-2011, 10:06 AM	#12
jphish ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tumwater Wa Oddometer: 596	Hey Doc - You're ready to 'ride the tiger' ? Cool! I think you'll like 'em. DO get some 20mm (at least) risers though - the stock bar setting, even for us shorter folk, is really uncomfortable. You're smart 'passing' on the Triumph luggage - I cant see it surviving much abuse. It ain't much...but heres what I know so far: Happy Trails does have a symetrical SU rack system (currently available) than will fit any pannier, that has a flat unadorned mounting surface. The rack sticks out equally on both sides so you DONT order different size cases to accomodate exhaust. There is room on non-exhaust side for MSR bottle, tool kit, whatever. It has its pros / cons but I can live with that. I'm definatly getting their pannier rack system and tail platform for my drybag. (I had HT racks / cases on my KLR that ended up being large 'frame sliders' with no significant damage under serious abuse - they make really tough / high quality stuff. I wish they made a more aesthetically pleasing pannier...but havent ruled them out entirerly yet) Called Holan to inquire about 2 - 40L cases. No word back. My riding partner waited over 4 months last year for his 800GS panniers from them. Pretty poor business model - hopefully improved by now. TraX EVO 37L sidecases appear to be available & might be my next choice, but waiting to hear back on the improvements over the previous models & if compatible with HT racks. Twisted throttle has been pretty good to deal with & are very responsive. Jessies are also an option, they ARE durable - my buddy has them on his 12GS & 'Lori KTM' also recommends them. Not sure about availability tho - havent checked yet. Pelican or Cariboo (I forget which) does now have top loaders - reportedly pretty tough. But they look more like plastic garbage cans without wheels (as some pundit surmised) - tho I don't think they're that bad. Anyway - thats as far as my research takes me so far. Will let you know of further developments as I hear back from folks. Chow' j

07-19-2011, 02:23 PM	#13
neparider Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2008 Location: burbs of scranton Oddometer: 208	got boxes , what racks? I need to find the rack that will allow me to hang the givi's or the pelicans. The pelicans we're acquired thru the fire service. read free. Caribou had the adapters that i can attach to them and allow for the Givi type attachment. My question is, Do I have to buy Givi specific racks, still being developed, or will other manufacture's work? __________________ 12 tiger XC 02 v-strom 073 (sold) 08 buell uly (traded) 2000 280 gasgas 72 bultaco alpina boxed

07-19-2011, 05:40 PM	#15
jphish ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tumwater Wa Oddometer: 596	Neparider - I've been on so many sights looking for panniers, its all a psychotic jumble at the moment. However...either Happy Trails or SW Motech (cant remember which for sure - but think HT) has hardware kit for mounting Givi's to their rack. I think HT makes the toughest racks out there - so hope it's them. I see you traded in your 'Hooligan beast' on the 800. I had an 08' Uly X I sold in May to get my 800. Glad I made the swap, but do miss the canyon carving abilities of the XB12X. A pretty good adventure machine she was. j

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