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Old 08-05-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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Anything that will haul bikes and get 30mpg?

I do mean an honest 30mpg on the highway, at highway speeds, hauling bikes. Not 60mph either. That'll get you killed a lot of places.

I'm contemplating a vehicle swap, and I'm finding both are requirements, but at odds with each other. Seems about the best you can do for a hauler type vehicle is 20-21mpg. Smaller cars will do the 30mpg easy, but I doubt they get that at speed with a trailer.

Am I missing anything? It has to be sold in the US.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:09 PM   #2
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30 MPG while towing!? All I can think of are the compact SUV's that can do about 30 without a trailer but with I have no idea how much it would drop with a bike or 2 behind it.

Edit: Just did some research and it looks like with towing at least on the Forester you go under 20MPG.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:12 PM   #3
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2wd 5spd 02+ ranger with the 2.3 DOHC. Probably get 25 loaded. My old one got 30-31 at 70mph using the cruise. I just disliked only having the single cab, good truck otherwise.

Also, this was in michigans upper peninsula - snow tires and 200 lbs over the rear axle (and any idea of how to drive) and you will be fine.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:22 PM   #4
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VW TDI with a trailer?
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:20 AM   #5
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+1. My 07 Ranger 2.3 5spd. I regularly go back and forth between the bay and Mt shasta on I-5 doing about 75mph on average. I typically get about 29-30.5mpg. This is with a ~300lb dual sport in the back. A little better on the return trip because of more downhill.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:50 AM   #6
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My 93 Toyota 2wd, 2.4, 5 speed will do it at 60 mph but not at 70.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:01 AM   #7
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:23 AM   #8
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TDI with a trailer works great. Wouldnt go over 1500lbs though. They are rated to tow 600 kg. My bandit 600 was
no problem and I moved a friend from NY to Houston with it as well.

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Old 08-06-2011, 10:17 AM   #9
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How much weight are you talking about? We have a Nissan frontier with a 4 banger (auto) and it gets just under 30MPG.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:41 AM   #10
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30 on tow? It's not as likely as you think I'm afraid.

We have a Subi 2.5l 5-speed, gets around 28 freeway but when the 1,800 lb trailer is behind it, fully loaded? 19 mpg.

Depends on the size and weight of the trailer - a small three-rail with a single dirtbike is not in the same league as our teardrop.

Question: How much towing do you need to do, that 30 mpg towing is critical? Seems like it would be a lot.

Some say the Sprinter Diesel gets around 30 - can you carry internally rather than towing?
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:22 PM   #11
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How much weight are you talking about? We have a Nissan frontier with a 4 banger (auto) and it gets just under 30MPG.
Same here,I have a 98 King Cab 4 banger Nissan that will just touch 30 mpg with a bike or two in the bed,maybe not going uphill a lot but it does a great job for a 4 cylinder truck.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:10 AM   #12
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I've owned a Sprinter, and it's not getting 30mpg unless dropped off a cliff.

I guess total miles hauled in a year might be around 10% of use. I do have a few cross country, or semi-cross country trips planned, and regularly do 800-1000 mile round trips. Just seems that on those occasions, if possible, I'd like to be up there mileage wise.

I've been driving V6 vehicles for a while now, probably did 35K last year, all at a top of 20mpg, probably more like 17mpg overall. Adds up.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:55 PM   #13
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Sucks, and I wanted a Sprinter really bad!
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:54 AM   #14
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Sucks, and I wanted a Sprinter really bad!
I think the 2011 Sprinters are going to get the best mileage of them all, and my new one just did basically 20MPG out of the box (2011 144" wheelbase, rooftop AC, short roof). Supposedly they break in to MUCH better mileage after 10k miles or so, but even then I think I'm talking maybe 23MPG. That's not towing anything, but I'm guessing a small open trailer with two bikes on it won't change the mileage any noticeable amount (which isn't true of your tiny vehicles, but should be of this).

I'm hauling a single bike (BMW G650X) on a Versahauler on the back of a Sprinter 3500 based RV (Itasca Navion 24J) and getting about 14MPG before the break-in. Have a buddy towing an '89 Honda Civic on a small open trailer with his identical unit and he's getting 15MPG easily and 16MPG if he stays at 65MPH or so, but he's past break-in now and I'm not.

The pre-2011 Sprinters don't do the urea thing, and thus have much more restrictive exhausts. That results in less power and less efficiency. I guess the AWD is killing the mileage on the GL350 Bluetec, because otherwise it appears to have the same engine as my Sprinter. Odd. It's rated at 17/21 for mileage. Really surprising.


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Old 08-06-2011, 02:22 PM   #15
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I've been driving V6 vehicles for a while now, probably did 35K last year, all at a top of 20mpg, probably more like 17mpg overall. Adds up.
I usually average 20-25K/Year, this year will be my lowest in a long time since I'm not doing any big road trips this year. I've made the drive up the East Coast (I've only been in CA for <1yr) every year for last 10 years and I've only had 1 vehicle that got over 30 MPG and that was a 2.0L Golf (not towing). 18 is average and my newest vehicle a 4.0 V-6 4runner would get 19-20 going 75 mph while towing a Harbor Freight trailer with my Rockster on it.

I think 30mpg towing at 70 mph isn't going to happen in anything but the TDI. The TDI Passat Wagon would probably be the only vehicle that could accommodate passengers and gear.

There was a Jeep Liberty CRD but I don't think it got 30 MPG, I've contemplated trying to find a 4x4 one since my 4runner is 2wd and taking a 2wd SUV into the snow is not fun. We got Bio-D at the pump here which is pretty awesome.

Looks like 25 MPG is realistic average after doing some googling on MPGs for it. I prefer an SUV with higher ground clearance than a wagon. YMMV
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