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Old 01-17-2012, 12:51 PM   #1
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Bikes with flaws you hate

a.k.a... bikes you like but would change this or that, etc...

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The tank ridge on the Ninja 250r, I can't get my knee under it.

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Old 01-17-2012, 12:56 PM   #2
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Basically, share your insights, niggles, or pet peeves you have about various bikes. This is a "glass-half-empty" kind of thread
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #3
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I had a 83 Yamaha Venture. It was a great bike. A full dress touring bikes that I could stay with most of my friends on their sport bikes. It also had linked brakes. They sucked. I will never buy another bike with linked brakes.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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The stock seat on the Kawasaki Z750S that slides you into the tank all day.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:17 PM   #5
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The stock seat on a Husqvarna TE610 that is little better than a shaped 2x4.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:26 PM   #6
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The fake carbs on the Bonneville. They look nice... but fake is fake.

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Old 01-17-2012, 02:21 PM   #7
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The fake carbs on the Bonneville. They look nice... but fake is fake.

Yeah... if you are going to the trouble of making fake carbs, at least you could make them fake Amal concentrics or flat slide Keihins!

Complexity (often due to Govt regs) and price make most new motos unattractive to me (plus the fact that lots of them really are butt-ugly).

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Old 01-17-2012, 02:34 PM   #8
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The fake carbs on the Bonneville. They look nice... but fake is fake.

I'm not sure what you mean...is this just the newer Bonnevilles? I have a 77 750 Tiger (same as a Bonnie) and its carb is real. I'm guessing when they changed to fuel injection they just kept "fake carbs" in the spots of the the old real ones? If that's the case, then I definitely disapprove...
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Old 01-17-2012, 03:00 PM   #9
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lack of a 6th gear on the DRZ.
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Old 01-17-2012, 03:05 PM   #10
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I'm not sure what you mean...is this just the newer Bonnevilles? I have a 77 750 Tiger (same as a Bonnie) and its carb is real. I'm guessing when they changed to fuel injection they just kept "fake carbs" in the spots of the the old real ones? If that's the case, then I definitely disapprove...
Read the part about "Carb Foolery"
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...iew-88138.html

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lack of a 6th gear on the DRZ.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #11
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It might be just me, but the factory handlebar position on both my R1100GS and GTS1000 leave something to be desired - Too low and too far away in both cases - also at the wrong angle for my wrists in the case of the GS. The demand for adapters to raise the bars on both models seems to bear out my complaint, however. I am just over 6' tall and of normal proportions so it's doubly frustrating that both bikes have their footpegs slightly too high, although that is a compromise with ground clearance and seat height that I at least understand.

The GTS is a lovely and unique bike. It's comfortable, smooth, and great to ride but it was built with a number of other flaws, including mirrors that mostly show your elbows and a misguided 100HP restriction, strangling the magnificent FZ1000 engine to meet supposed European limitations that never came to pass.

I also don't get why Yamaha went away from having a functional self-cancelling turn signal system in the 70's and 80's.

My DR350 had a crap seat for any prolonged (over 45 min) ride but it might be argued that is not what it was intended for.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:43 PM   #12
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lack of a 6th gear on the DRZ.
And the KLR too. I also wish they came with suspension. The 08+ KLRs at least have brakes, but to get brakes, they had to 50lbs of useless crap. Maybe in 20 more years they will get suspension and EFI, but they will probably have to ad another 100lbs for that stuff.

The one thing I HATE about my first gen KLR (besides no suspension or brakes) is the totally shitty chain adjuster. You have to line up the marks to align the wheel, but the marks don't match. If you line up the marks, the wheel is slightly crooked, which makes deep gravel LOTS of fun.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:14 AM   #13
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And the KLR too. I also wish they came with suspension. The 08+ KLRs at least have brakes, but to get brakes, they had to 50lbs of useless crap. Maybe in 20 more years they will get suspension and EFI, but they will probably have to ad another 100lbs for that stuff.

The one thing I HATE about my first gen KLR (besides no suspension or brakes) is the totally shitty chain adjuster. You have to line up the marks to align the wheel, but the marks don't match. If you line up the marks, the wheel is slightly crooked, which makes deep gravel LOTS of fun.
My ex250 marks are the same. They do not match. I have to eyeball it when I adjust the chain. It has worked for the 37,000 miles that I have owned her.
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lack of a 6th gear on the drz.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:12 PM   #15
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lack of a 6th gear on the DRZ.
I'll third this.... The DRZ comes sooo close to being an everyman's inexpensive easily maintained dirt worthy adventure tourer....except any sprocket mix compromises the bike..

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Seats and even suspensions are easy fixes....but an overdrive sixth gear? Geez Suzuki my wife's little Super Sherpa has 6 gears ... why not the Driz...?
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