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Old 03-21-2012, 09:07 PM   #1
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aaaaaand one more xr600 usd swap! yeah thats right!

well fellows I will be part of the cool usd gang now...

Just finished an initial test fit of my usds on my 88 xr600.

Here are some pics...

Some details...

Test ride and finishing touches in the next few days...

So what you need to do is:

Buy some CR250R forks...yeah the motocross ones...2002 and up, why youll know later.



Thanks to Steve who pulled the trigger on these showa twin chambers, they are pristine inside and out. Rebuild with some fresh maxima 5w, and plush 375cc's of fluid and some new fork skins too! nice

Then get the cr250 clamps and take off the cr stem(this way its sort of easier, I had to I was missing the cr stem and well I had to use the xr stem! more details on why later



Press in a bushing in the upper clamp:



Then press in the xr stem into the CR bottom clamp(notice clip is still there so it wont go up anymore?)



Press lower bearing back onto xr stem in cr clamps



Tell machinist, to shave a bit off the nuts and spacers on the xr stem configuration:



He took about 1mm off each side if the keeper nut, and 2mm off the stem top nutm why you ask? well to gain you some mm cause the xr stem is ever so shorter than the cr/crf stem



Then notice you have an issue with the locking spacer that keeps the stem tight, the issue is the diameter is too small cause you pushed everything up kind of:


so you dremel the hole out a bit:

and shave the teeth down so its flush against the nut:



So then mock it up and you get this clamp setup:


NICE WERE GETTING SOMEWHERE AND ACTUALLY THE HARDEST PART IS DONE.

add some bars of your choice:



Then slide some tubes up this sucker(sorry beers kicked in!)



Put your old bars on(I will still be using my fatbars and one set of adapters, feels good.)


some more pics next...

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Old 03-21-2012, 09:20 PM   #2
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part 2!

THEN:

Notice why 2002 and up is key here....

Put on your old caliper(mine is an 88) so other most all will line up actually, huh what? yeah no bracket extension or spacer, just put your old one on and bam!



yeah! just replace the top bolt of the caliper with another 10mm one from say for example you bar clamp bolts!

Then while doing this take the time to check out your caliper...!

I apparently have an issue with the piston surfaces crumbling under the metal detachable caps(notice pistons are hollow, nice weight savings there honda, im impressed!


so I put the caps back on nice and tight and cleaned the pads up and lubed the caliper pins...nice!



Then put a SWEET crf/x black excel wheel you got on ebay for 79 bucks! yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so it matches your rear of course! stainless spoked too! nice



Then thank your dear friend steve for buying the crf/x speedo and odometer cable for a few bucks...nice, guess what it hooks up to the 24 year old xr odo! yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

some fork guards here:


a rotor guard there:



loosely fit everything up:

and admire the new front end of sorts!



and a little prfile pic too!



now let it soak in and get ready to do more testing tomorrow or the next.

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Old 08-11-2012, 04:38 AM   #3
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Hi Christian,

Was just wondering if the steering stops work for you.

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Old 08-11-2012, 05:10 AM   #4
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Steering Stops

The steering stops didn't work for me so I welded one on. Right below the wiring harness loop. This is on my XR600 but the same as the XRL with CRF triples



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Old 08-11-2012, 05:42 AM   #5
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Hi Christian,

Was just wondering if the steering stops work for you.
hey man

worked perfect for me, but do notice I have a smaller clarke tank now and not the big ims4

had to do nothing and turning radius is maybe a teeny smidge less than before...

hows yours coming along?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:08 AM   #6
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hey man

worked perfect for me, but do notice I have a smaller clarke tank now and not the big ims4

had to do nothing and turning radius is maybe a teeny smidge less than before...

hows yours coming along?
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Mine is coming along... Just have not had a chance to even look at the bike, been super busy with work. I am aiming to have it all together this weekend so that I can start riding it!

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Old 08-22-2012, 09:20 AM   #7
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hey I posted on your thread

you just need to hammer the lock washer flat, enlarge the hole and align it so the tab sits back like stock

then when the top clamp is on you can lift up the tab

basically stock the lock washer is not big enough to be able to flip up so it rests uneven on the actual lock nut.

so just do that and you be golden

good luck!
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:49 AM   #8
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just wonderin... any of you use the xr wheel after you did the swap? i got a brand new rubber on my 3 month old excel supermoto wheels. anything can be done with the correct spacers/bushings etc. just wondering if any of you have done this. thanks in advance, dan
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:07 PM   #9
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just wonderin... any of you use the xr wheel after you did the swap? i got a brand new rubber on my 3 month old excel supermoto wheels. anything can be done with the correct spacers/bushings etc. just wondering if any of you have done this. thanks in advance, dan
I made spacer bushings for both sides of the XR axle. I also had to space the brake caliper over with a few washers between the caliper mount and the fork. It did work, but was a hassle to assemble. I bought a proper CRF wheel soon after.
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What is everyone doing about the too-long CRF forks? They're nearly an inch longer than the XR forks.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:18 PM   #11
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What is everyone doing about the too-long CRF forks? They're nearly an inch longer than the XR forks.
I let em stick thru a bit , works fine .



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Old 01-19-2013, 04:52 AM   #12
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I let em stick thru a bit , works fine .




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Old 01-13-2013, 05:19 AM   #13
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What is everyone doing about the too-long CRF forks? They're nearly an inch longer than the XR forks.
You can also shorten them internaly but I don't remeber how it's done. Bprt4 did it to his.
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You can also shorten them internaly but I don't remeber how it's done. Bprt4 did it to his.
Christian, nice work as always.

Taco, they machine a spacer to limit travel, and relocate the spring seat. Factory Connection did it the first time, this time I had Precision Concepts do it for an XR250 that i am putting on right now....

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Old 01-12-2013, 06:03 PM   #15
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^^^^^yuppers

play with them...go up and down and see what works best in dirt...

for example put the forks 2 inches from top...you will notice it turns like a beast carves almost too well!

but at speed you will wobble like crazy

the push them up all the way flush and it will be choppered out and smooth on the highway but it will suck even more than the stock forks when it comes to turning

this is commonly caused "pushing"

if you cant find a happy medium then you need to look at correct springs for your wieght and usds forks...

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