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Old 03-29-2012, 12:53 PM   #1
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2014 Alcan5000 announced

http://www.alcan5000.com/2014itin.htm Itinerary

http://www.alcan5000.com/2014entryF.htm Entry form and costs

I thought I'd post this. A few here have run this event before. I ran it in 2006 and again in 2010. It is a time-speed-and-distance rally for both cars and bikes. 9 days long and maybe 4500 miles, starting from Seattle. Most days have two or three timed sections. Other days have more of a challenge aspect to them without a timed section. If you run those, you are guaranteed your highest previous TSD score. They will be dirt. The reason they are not timed is because most everybody wants to ride them like hell and not worry about arriving early.

2014 will feature over 2000 miles of dirt roads. The principal dirt is a) the Blackwater b) Cassiar, Dease Lake, Telegraph Creek c) North Canol Rd to NWT border and back out d) part of the Klodike Hwy e) Dempster Hwy to Arctic Circle and back f) Top-of-the-World Hwy g) Denali Hwy. Finish in Anchorage, ride or ferry back to Seattle (another 2300 mi).

Rider entry is $2k and includes all lodging and a few meals plus an awards banquet. They also provide us with chase trucks to pick up wounded riders/bikes, haul our spares, clothing etc and spot gas for us where we need it to complete a liason.

Bikes: 4 classes; under 700cc, over 700cc, computer aided navigation, non computer aids. You'll need at least 170 miles fuel range. DOT knobby front tires recommended. Your spares will likely include a second set of tires and you'll have to spoon them by hand as there are no tire changing services open when you arrive at night destination. Most will swap rubber in Dawson at the hotel lot after some 3k miles.

The field: All ages and skill levels. Rider's are pretty evenly split between twins and thumpers. Maybe 15-20 starters. Fewer cars, but all kinds. Heck, I've seen people rent one way SUV's loaded up with insurance and fly home.

The winners will have full on electronic navigation. Jimmy650 here won 2nd overall and first bike aboard a BMW 650 Dakar. Ned, his buddy, was 3rd overall and 2nd bike on another BMW 650. They both practiced their timing and zeroed a few TSD's just like the top cars with navigators on board. Route sheets are sized for 6" roadbook holders.

You'll get all kinds of weather. Gortex and heated gear is recommended.

I rode a KTM 950 both times. if I do it again, I'll use a 2012 KTM 690.

It's a great trip. Hard to beat the cost. The competition aspect adds a little fun to your vacation.

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Old 03-29-2012, 01:43 PM   #2
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I had a blast back in 2006, very well run event and the riding is amazing!
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:05 PM   #3
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Was pissed I couldn't go in 2010. I'm 100% in for 2014
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:16 PM   #4
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Old 03-30-2012, 11:08 AM   #5
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:49 AM   #6
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I just wanted to bump this thing. Colleen Hines (Rallymaster's wife) was in Boston over the weekend so we visited some. I sensed this might be the last summer event, so if this is on your bucket list...I sent my entry last night.

I think I'm going to ride my Yamaha WR250R. I want to try the full computer class this time so PM me if anybody knows where I can buy one.

Colleen says there are 15 motorcycles and some 15 cars signed up already so hopefully we'll have a good field. The website probably hasn't been updated in awhile.

The principal dirt sections are approximately as follows:
-Blackwater Road from Quesnel. Maybe 120 miles worth.
-Parts of the Cassiar and the Road to Telegraph Creek. Maybe 200 mi.
-Campbell Highway and the North Canol. 600 miles worth.
-Top-o-the World Highway. 200 miles or so.
-Haul Road to Arctic Circle and back. 400 miles I think.
-Denali Highway. 140 miles.

You'll need at least 170 miles fuel range (more is better). The fuel truck will be spotted to help us in the two areas that we'll need more gas. That will be the NWT bivouac and the Haul Road.

Here's to you Ned:


NWT Camp:




Denali:


The Blackwater:


Sweep:


Installing new rubber in Dawson:


North Canol:


Repairs:


The best bar stool on earth:


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I'm signed up and deposit paid
OK where are those forms again .... do I have to print the pdf and then scan it back, I can't seem to entry any info.
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OK where are those forms again .... do I have to print the pdf and then scan it back, I can't seem to entry any info.
Yeppers...need to print the pdf, fill out and fax or scan. Welcome! You are going to have one of the most memorable vacations ever. Ordering my ICO tomorrow I think. May as well learn how to use the thing
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I too had to bail on 2010 and will be at the 2014 running. Planning to ride it on a Super Enduro.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:34 AM   #12
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I too had to bail on 2010 and will be at the 2014 running. Planning to ride it on a Super Enduro.
The Canol, Dempster and Denai roads are perfect for your Super Enduro. The Canols will be 2nd-4th with an occasional 5th. The Dempster is a real thrill running up and down the gearbox endlessly; 3rd-4th-5th. A little slower on the Denali in that you probably don't top 70mph very often. Well, it depends on the conditions as they change season by season. In 2006 the Denali was rough with babyheads. Pickups ran about 20mph while the bikes were about 50. 2010 was smooth and fast.

Telegraph Creek is a twisty thing, better for a thumper, but very fun on anything. The Blackwater will be slow going initially because the front part is all TSD and unless you really know your timing equipment, you'll be struggling to read all your roadbook notes . But after the TSD is done, you'll be honking that big twin like nobodies business. I followed Crankshaft through there in 06 after he came by me. He gave me a good pace to try and hang onto and was very fun trying. Just be prepared for free range cattle...

Top-of-the World for use was all mud, but it had good grip if you had knobbies. There was a Suby WRX that came by us and really having fun!

You'll have some mud. I've never been up there when we didn't have lots of rain.
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is badass. I will have this in my schedule. If I can't do 2014 (1 year out of college) definitely 2018! (since it sounds like it's done every 4 years)
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Hi Pantah, is there somewhere that explains the timing and computers people use ?


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Old 04-03-2012, 01:53 PM   #15
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Hi Pantah, is there somewhere that explains the timing and computers people use ?


I PM'd you the guy who knows all that stuff. There is a paperback book that the organizors can lead you to. It has the basics of time keeping and roadbook markings. The computer that everybody used was a red case gizmo about the size of a Zumo. I think it was called an ICO.

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