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Old 07-23-2012, 06:59 PM   #1
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New Smaller Wheels

Well in the interest of saving some $$$ for repairs needed on the house i recently decided to downsize my ever growing fleet of vehicles. I sold one of the project bikes too a friend and have a pending deal on my daily rider. As well i have down sized my Pickup from my 2011 F150 to my new 2012 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab 4x4 Sr5.

I loved my F150 and it was a great truck but it was costing my a small fortune to own and fuel and insure so i took a small hit and traded it on something that would save me a bit in the long run and serve my needs just as well (i never NEEDED the F150 just was addicted by the very fun little Eco Boost).

The Tacoma has the 2.7L 4cyl with a 5 speed manual trans. Its a hoot to drive even though its down over 200hp compared to the Ford. Its still plenty capable of hauling the bikes around (still will have two after last one sells) and is a lot easier to get around in the bigger city when i head down.

But onto the Pics

Day i brought her home

She only had 19kms on the clock when i picked her up

And one of the Beast the Toy is replacing (she will be missed but the roof over my head comes first and the Toy is proofing to be a BUNCH of fun and very practical)
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:02 PM   #2
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I'll be curious to see the actual highway mpg difference. Ford is touting some big numbers with that twin-turbo 6.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:19 PM   #3
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I'll be curious to see the actual highway mpg difference. Ford is touting some big numbers with that twin-turbo 6.
+1

The maths don't seem right to me, but it ain't my wallet.

If it were me, I'da sold that F150 and bought me an older one that I don't have to make payments on. ...but that's me. YMMV

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Old 07-23-2012, 07:28 PM   #4
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If it were me, I'da sold that F150 and bought me an older one that I don't have to make payments on. ...but that's me. YMMV

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No payments on my 2002 Suburban.

The monthly fuel cost is much less than the payment would be on just about any purchase I'd be interested in making...
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:24 PM   #5
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:25 PM   #6
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How much fuel could you buy with the hit you took on the trade?

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Old 07-24-2012, 06:46 AM   #7
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How much fuel could you buy with the hit you took on the trade?



On a one year old truck, the $$$$ do not add up, unless you drive 100,000 miles a year.

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PS I suspect you just wanted something new, and are trying to justify it. Nice truck though!
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:25 PM   #8
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Might be a boycott of the closure of the st thomas assembly as well.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:57 PM   #9
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I still owed $ on the ford so the trade down is actually dropping my payments a HUGE amount per month (i am adding 2 years though). In the long run it be pretty close $$$$$ wise. The Toy though is all i NEED, Its smaller easier to get round, more Fun to drive (the F150 was fun when ya got on the power but if ya did that the fuel disappeared and at $130/tank i could not afford to have fun often). The Toy hauls all the weight i ever need or foresee needing. Its far better on fuel all ready (getting 4mpg better on its FIRST tank than the average on the F150). And in honesty love the look of the little Taco.

So is it really cheeper in long run i dunno but i do know right now its saving me a quite a bit monthly and thats what i NEED to do to get stuff i need done around the house.

As for getting an old rig i strongly considered it trust me. I a diesel tech for a lifting dove older stuff for quite some time BUT if i can avoid it i will cause the LAST thing i wana do after fixing stuff all day is to come home and fix my own. Spend enuff of your life pulling wrenches and you learn to HATE IT.

Oh and for those curious the Ford F150 with Eco boost in my experience AVERAGED mixed driving with a slightly heavy foot over the 20,000kms i put on it 16.5mpg. My best tank worked out to 18.8mpg and the best i ever seen on a trip on the on dash recorder was 24mpg (seen 31mpg once on a long down hill LOL). Ford made some outrageous fuel milage claims with that eco boost that i just could not seem to get even driving as lightly as i could. IN many cases my older brother got better milage with his truck (identical F150 in blue with the longer bed and a 5.0L v8). It did kinda piss me off but one thing Ford did not mis advertise is the power that little six was POTENT.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:06 PM   #10
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ahh.. the 4 square game... you loose the hindsight of what it actually costs to own, and you get stuck justifying the per month cost, versus the total operating cost...
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:50 AM   #11
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Oh and for those curious the Ford F150 with Eco boost in my experience AVERAGED mixed driving with a slightly heavy foot over the 20,000kms i put on it 16.5mpg. My best tank worked out to 18.8mpg and the best i ever seen on a trip on the on dash recorder was 24mpg (seen 31mpg once on a long down hill LOL). Ford made some outrageous fuel milage claims with that eco boost that i just could not seem to get even driving as lightly as i could. IN many cases my older brother got better milage with his truck (identical F150 in blue with the longer bed and a 5.0L v8). It did kinda piss me off but one thing Ford did not mis advertise is the power that little six was POTENT.
Hehehehe ... I love my 5L V8. Also love the larger fuel tank (except when I have to fill it). But knowing how far I go on that tank makes me happy. And I like the sound of a V8 ... much better then the vacuum cleaner sound from the Eco-Boost.

Real world numbers: My one year average fuel mileage with a mix of driving is 16.2mpg. What I have found to be the largest difference between the Eco-Boost and my 5L is my fuel economy numbers are a little more stable. My worst to best fuel mileage is a relatively small range between 14mpg to 19mpg. My best is a little shy of the 25mpg Ford says I should get, but for real world I ain't doing bad.

And towing isn't that bad with my 5L either. Truck and trailer weighing in at exactly 10,000lbs, I completed an 8000km trek from British Columbia to go visit my Brother in Southern Ontario and back home again and my average for the trip rolls in at 16.4mpg.


But on the topic of monies owed ... I think if the "need" or desire for a specific vehicle can be justified, the monies can be worked. When purchasing anything new from the showroom floor you already take a hit. Depreciation on a vehicle the moment the keys are in your hand is heart-breaking. As consumers, we tend to ignore this for a while and relish on the finer points of new vehicle ownership ... like making the "new-car" smell last as long as possible. But we ain't stupid. We know it is going to happen, and if you factor in all the perks, savings, maintenance, and overall life-expectancy, we should expect to see the savings after many years.

If you acknowledge the financial hit of purchasing a new vehicle, then trading a larger vehicle with a larger sticker price for a smaller sticker smaller truck still makes sense. So long as the "needs" are met. While I agree in the short-term the hit he took on the trade-in value of his larger truck for this smaller truck will sting a bit ... I think the overall savings will help his situation.

Just my $0.02. I am a little passionate about this topic, because the purchase of my F150 came after much debate, contemplation, and creative dreaming trying to get myself out of a jam with a massively backwards loan on a vehicle I hated and should never have purchased...
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:45 PM   #12
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So what kind of fuel mileage is the Taco 4cyl getting? Do you have a stick or auto?
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:49 PM   #13
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Glad you found a switch that works well for you.

I'd also be curious to hear how the taco does on fuel. My older 5spd taco was pretty crappy--only a little better than my F250 does now actually I'd guess the newer ones are better. Would love to see the Japanese get with this millennium and toss in an efficient direct injection motor. My old taco was tons of fun and handled great, just was slow and super cramped (newer ones much less cramped I understand).

2whl, He says it's a manual (e.g., stick) in the first post
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keep in mind that tacoma is almost 10k less

probably took a hit on the initial investment, but I'd guess he still comes out ahead
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:18 AM   #15
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I'd guess he still comes out ahead in ten years.
Fixed it for ya.

d00d just wanted a newer, smaller truck.

Good for him. I doubt he's saving any money.
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