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Old 09-12-2012, 04:05 PM   #1
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smallest cruising(55 mph) scooter for GF

My GF currently has an aero 50 which runs like a champ. It will hustle up to 45 mph with her on it as she is only 100 pounds. She rides the crap out of the thing and as I near completion of my CH150 she is talking about wanting to be able to get out on some country roads without being a huge hazard. I would like to get her up to 55 mph, has anyone done any DIO motors or AF05E motors that with a 100 pound girl could do 55? Ideally the lightweight 2-stroke engines would be the way to go for her, I just dont know how long they can sustain near wide open throttle.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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You might check out the PCX150. It was designed with riders like her in mind.

And you're not going to beat the price; and if it turns out to be true Honda quality, it's an absolute steal.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:49 PM   #3
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A PCX 150 is definatly a nice scooter and she would definatly like one but I would hardly call it cheap. there are not many 2 strokes out there anymore. I like 2 strokes and I own a Zuma 50 but a 4 stroke is a better choice for her. I am not familiar with the Areo. If she is looking for an inexpensive scooter that will do 55mph I would look at a Kymco agility 125. If she wants something with larger wheels then I would look at the Kymco people 125 or 150. The 14 in. wheeled scooters I would stay away from because there are not many tire choices and the ones that are available are expensive.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:11 PM   #4
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Are you wanting a vintage scooter, or a new or newer one? I was seriously considering a PCX150 for myself, my local dealer has them on sale for $3195. Then I found out about the valve adjustment. It has frequent valve adjustment intervals, and a valve adjustment is a 3-4 hour job. And they are supposed to be checked at 600 miles. For me it would kind of take the fun out of buying a new scooter, knowing I would have to almost completely disassemble it in 600 miles to check the valves. Honda could have designed it with an access panel to get to the valves. Also kind of makes me question Honda's engineering. Why would a new tech engine require valve checks every 4000 miles?

I have a Yamaha Vino 125 that will sometimes reach 55 with my 220 pounds on it. I understand a Buddy 125 or an Agility 125 are both a little faster.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:01 AM   #5
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A Buddy 125/150/170 is very small and lightweight.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:08 AM   #6
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Sym HD200 70 mph 70 mpg
Cruising at 55 MPH needs a top speed of 70 MPH.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:13 AM   #7
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Sym HD200 70 mph 70 mpg
Cruising at 55 MPH needs a top speed of 70 MPH.
Assuming she's physically comfortable on this (inseam etc play a part) I can verifiability say that this can cart someone around all day on back roads at back-road speeds. The big wheels help with the occasional pothole, or squirrel. It can run freeway speeds reliably. I have done it. I didn't like it on the freeway vs. my Burgman, I found it a bit light.

You can find them relatively cheap used if you poke around.

It's ceramic cylindered & water cooled. My wife uses the 2k8 model. Carburated & drum brakes in rear.
Overall reviews are all about the same. Engine is excellent. Suspension is a scooter (aka aftermarket tweaking can improve. The brakes are "OK". I gather the brakes improve if you put on aftermarket pads. (EBC, fits same as the people 150) This is on the list for this winter.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:15 AM   #8
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depends how tall she is
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:49 PM   #9
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Ah, the Buddy 170. Now there's a small scooter that will definitely maintain 55 mph, probably 65 mph.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:23 PM   #10
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Buddy 125 can hit 72 with 180lbs on it and will cruise at 60 for hours at a time though if I were buying one now I'd get the 170i but when we bought ours the Buddy was only available in 50 and 125ccs. Ours has been a daily commuter for my son when he was in high school and will be for my youngest son when he is old enough to get his license (8 more months.)
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:02 PM   #11
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Buddy 125 can hit 72 with 180lbs on it and will cruise at 60 for hours at a time though if I were buying one now I'd get the 170i but when we bought ours the Buddy was only available in 50 and 125ccs. Ours has been a daily commuter for my son when he was in high school and will be for my youngest son when he is old enough to get his license (8 more months.)
Is that GPS verified?

A PCX150 starts to lose it's legs at 60 mph with 180lb's on it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:24 PM   #12
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Is that GPS verified?

A PCX150 starts to lose it's legs at 60 mph with 180lb's on it.
My Buddy 125cc can hit 75 mph on the ol' Buddy meter...thats probably 65mph or so in real life. It can cruise at 55mph without much problem though. The Buddy really is a bad-ass little scoot! I have close to 5,000 miles on mine and never have had a problem....that's 5,000 hard, keep her wide open for 100 miles type of riding too!
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:57 AM   #13
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Is that GPS verified?

A PCX150 starts to lose it's legs at 60 mph with 180lb's on it.
GPS verified on the Buddy 125 of crusing at 65 with a bit of throttle left. Flat ground at sea level on Hwy 3 between Houston and Galveston for the time it hit 72mph 76mph indicated). FWIW, it our runs the Vespa ET 4 150 we used to own both at the top end and how quickly it gets there. Personally if I was going to be crusing 65+ mph for hours at a time I'd take my GTS. Its a bit more grounded with the additional weight and maxes out at 82 GPS verified but before I got the GTS I'd go on group rides with 240-500cc scoots and had little trouble keeping up except in heavy crosswinds when it would slow down to a max of 55-60 but that was only with high crosswinds. I could maintain close to 65 with a head wind.

FWIW, being ridden for 4 years by a teenage boy the only repairs it needed was a replacement mirror where he cracked it banging into a brick wall when parking too close and the horn connection came lose so they had to open the plastic to plug it back in properly. Given the state of the streets - potholes, overfilled pot holes and general bad repair it's almost surprising that it hasn't needed some other repair besides general maintenance.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:59 PM   #14
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I just bought a new 2012 Zuma 125. I don't know about top speed, but it should be around 60 mph. I only have 12 miles on it so far, I will find out soon enough. I bought Japanese because I traded a crotch rocket in on it (probably saved my life). But the Agility 125 is just as good, cheaper, just not quite a fancy looking. If money were a major issue, I would have no problem at all buying a Kymco scooter. They are NOT typical Chinese JUNK. I saw a video where an Agility 125 ran off and left a Vino 125, and I know a Vino 125 will do 55, and that is with my 220 pounds on it.

One thing to remember about these small scooters that top out at 55-60 on flat roads with no wind. Just the slightest headwind or an uphill grade that you can't even see can slow them down considerably. Nevertheless, I have put over 2000 miles on my Vino 125 on the freeway without problems, even though it is technically illegal.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:00 AM   #15
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One thing to remember about these small scooters that top out at 55-60 on flat roads with no wind. Just the slightest headwind or an uphill grade that you can't even see can slow them down considerably. Nevertheless, I have put over 2000 miles on my Vino 125 on the freeway without problems, even though it is technically illegal.
My Super 8 150 tops out at around 65 on the speedo, so around 60 actual speed. Head winds and hills have little effect unless they are pretty steep. It's less effected by hills than my Sport City 250.
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