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Old 09-13-2012, 11:21 AM   #1
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The New Ninja 300

Is anybody else pretty excited to see these?

I've been a fan of the 250 since I spent a month or so on one in college. My friend had one and I had a Honda Rebel. Too much fun for the street, just needed a little more power....
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:25 AM   #2
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Oh yea, I was watching the Kawasaki event in New York City via their website, plus I've read the rumors previously posted on here an other sites. I've still got my 1989 Ninja 250, but the new one sure looks nice. I wouldn't mind a test ride on one. I also just found a new page on Kawasaki's site http://ninja300.kawasaki.com/Home/
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:57 AM   #3
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Don't start another thread, please. There are two already. Just turn the page and look for them. Multiple threads for new bikes are a complete waste of everyone's time.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:55 PM   #4
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Sorry, Gryp, I should have heard that advice 36 minutes earlier!

Jumbled threads about multiple bikes are what seem to waste my time. No continuity. The sense of community and conversation is lost.

But I digress, this is a thread about the new fly weight ninja. My gripes should go to the basement!

How long until the new 300s are on showroom floors?
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:38 PM   #5
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Looking pretty good!
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:13 PM   #6
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Wow nice.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:05 AM   #7
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Personally, I think it's a stupid idea. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 250, and it has been successful for three decades.

Now that Kawasaki is facing a valid threat in the 250 class, they do what? Take the easy way out and bump the displacement 50cc. Will it be quicker? Yeah of course, but it will also be more expensive, and most depressingly, NOT A 250 ANYMORE! Why is the answer always bumping the displacement? I fear this is a big clumsy step down a very slippery slope that has already ruined countless other machines (VFR anyone?)

Pretty soon the smallest bike anyone will be able to buy in the US is a 1000...

Everyone complains that the 250 would be perfect if it had "just a little more power" but it's a 250 for cryin' out loud. it's not supposed to be super fast.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:31 AM   #8
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Personally, I think it's a stupid idea. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 250, and it has been successful for three decades.

Now that Kawasaki is facing a valid threat in the 250 class, they do what? Take the easy way out and bump the displacement 50cc. Will it be quicker? Yeah of course, but it will also be more expensive, and most depressingly, NOT A 250 ANYMORE! Why is the answer always bumping the displacement? I fear this is a big clumsy step down a very slippery slope that has already ruined countless other machines (VFR anyone?)

Pretty soon the smallest bike anyone will be able to buy in the US is a 1000...

Everyone complains that the 250 would be perfect if it had "just a little more power" but it's a 250 for cryin' out loud. it's not supposed to be super fast.
I'm almost totally with you here. What i would have loved to see was a 400 at this price and the 250 still on the shelf.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:46 AM   #9
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Personally, I think it's a stupid idea. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 250, and it has been successful for three decades.

Now that Kawasaki is facing a valid threat in the 250 class, they do what? Take the easy way out and bump the displacement 50cc. Will it be quicker? Yeah of course, but it will also be more expensive, and most depressingly, NOT A 250 ANYMORE! Why is the answer always bumping the displacement? I fear this is a big clumsy step down a very slippery slope that has already ruined countless other machines (VFR anyone?)

Pretty soon the smallest bike anyone will be able to buy in the US is a 1000...

Everyone complains that the 250 would be perfect if it had "just a little more power" but it's a 250 for cryin' out loud. it's not supposed to be super fast.

Yup.

Same goes for a lot of things. Compact trucks are now almost as big as full sized trucks were a couple decades ago. Bigger ain't always better.

Leave it at 250cc, I say.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:57 AM   #10
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Yup.

Same goes for a lot of things. Compact trucks are now almost as big as full sized trucks were a couple decades ago. Bigger ain't always better.

Leave it at 250cc, I say.

It isn't physically any larger than it would be as a 250, and the 50cc will only strengthen the weakest part of the torque curve. I doubt you't be able to tell one from the other without the decal on the side in back to back rides.

I'd have rather they made it a 350 with 50 HP!
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:42 PM   #11
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I'd have rather they made it a 350 with 50 HP!
If they'd made a 350, you'd want a 400.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:02 PM   #12
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No, I know what I want, apply the tech to build the lightest, best suspended supersport bike with high output per liter, and a 50 HP 350 screamer with a weight of about 310 lbs. is feasable. I'd not expect it at $4500 but it can be built and would smoke alot of high displacement bikes on a twisty road or track, as my 50 HP 265 lbs sumoto does already.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:04 PM   #13
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If those photos are of production models, it is a very standard riding position. After a big suspension upgrade, and maybe brakes, I'd add lower bars and rear sets.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:44 AM   #14
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Why

I think they did it to try to find a happy medium between having a 250 and a 400. Hoping it would be a safe comprimise and have 1 bike to make instead of 2. Canada has insurance reasons for the 400 (Thanks BC) but I would assume the differences between the 250 and 400 were minimal. I would think it's just an attempt at cost savings for the company. That being said I have a 2001 Ninja 500 and haven't rode either the 250 or 400.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:00 PM   #15
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Everyone is freaking out that its 50cc's bigger? OMG - were talking 50cc. I can pee more than that. Have you ever ridden a 250? I had one - great little bike, but gutless. It could have always used a little more power to at least keep a new rider entertained a little longer. It will still be very easy to ride.
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