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Old 10-03-2012, 02:32 PM   #1
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Just wanted to share an oil analysis I just got back for my 07 DL650. The bike has just shy of 100K miles on it, engine is bone stock, never been touched other than oil changes and air filters.

The oil is changed every 5K miles though this time it went further than usual. Just thought it might be interesting to other Strom owners.

Still gets 55mpg, used to commute year round in stop and go traffic, two up weekend trips and day time rides in the canyons. I was expecting to see more metal content due to mileage but it wasn't present. I add about 200ml over the course of 5K miles to top off. If that...

Oil Type: Ams Oil Full Syth 15/50 - Been the only oil used in the bike after the 600 mile break-in period with Dyno oil
Oil Filters: Stock, K&N or WIX when available (Wix is my go to choice, I have cut open all three and they are similar with Wix having the largest number of internal pleats)
Air Filter: I make my own using a modified WIX air filter glued to the stock air filter body after realizing the cost of stock was ridiculous. This has been my go to solution for the last 60K miles



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Old 10-03-2012, 02:59 PM   #2
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What kind of oil [edit: just saw that it's Amsoil] ... and filters?

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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What kind of oil [edit: just saw that it's Amsoil] ... and filters?

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Ams Oil Full Synthetic 15/50
I use either stock, K&N or as of late when able WIX
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:55 PM   #4
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I used Puralator oil filer at $2.50 each.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:10 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info. I am curious as to how much you paid for your oil analysis and the cost.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:18 AM   #6
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Picking nits...you didn't include the 200ml make up oil in the test.

How does it compare to a test from say, 50,000 miles?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:29 AM   #7
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Picking nits...you didn't include the 200ml make up oil in the test.

How does it compare to a test from say, 50,000 miles?
Actually since I was doing an oil change anyways I did not have to add the 200ml make up oil. I replaced all of it.

Since this was the only test I did the assumption would be if there was wear taking place then it would be reflected in the metal content of the sample.

Since it was practically non-existent the results would have been similar.

What I will do when the time comes to put in the new crate motor I have for the bike is do a sample with the the dyno oil at 3K miles ( which would include the breakin time etc).

Then test again every 25K miles.

That will be interesting to see. I expect to see high metal content due to the break in for the first change, then it should normalize for the remainder till wear starts to take place again.

While the motor is running great I am starting to get more false neutrals since I have worn out the shifting drum inside the transmission. That will be the real demise of this engine.

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Ahh, ok and now you know you could drop the 200ml in it and run to 7,000 miles.
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Ahh, ok and now you know you could drop the 200ml in it and run to 7,000 miles.
True but as the viscosity drops so the the ability to remain stable under shear.

I notice a significant reduction in the shifting performance of the bike even when new as the miles on the oil get over 5K. While not a deal breaker I prefer to change at that interval and I think in doing so the fact I have in effect what is still a like new motor is conducive to maintaining that practice.

Next step will be to perform a leak down test and see how the rings and valves are doing. Considering the valves have not needed adjustment in the last three valve checks I am not too worried.
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Thanks for the info. I am curious as to how much you paid for your oil analysis and the cost.
The cost is 25 bucks plus the cost of shipping it to them, they email back the results.

I sent it on Sat, got the results Wed.

They will send the testing kit to you free, just go on their webpage.

All the info is on the bottom of the oil analysis.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:59 AM   #11
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That's great information, I'm just lovin this Wee more and more!
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How much did the valve clearance change between adjustments? What interval did u check valves?
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:36 PM   #13
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How much did the valve clearance change between adjustments? What interval did u check valves?
I had them checked at the factory intervals.

600 first, then every req interval after that. It has not needed a valve adjustment till 45K miles and not another one since.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #14
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wow congrats on the miles. are you still on your stock clutch? i have just under 50k miles and had to replace the cable. otherwise its great.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:51 PM   #15
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wow congrats on the miles. are you still on your stock clutch? i have just under 50k miles and had to replace the cable. otherwise its great.
Yup which is surprising.

Other than, tires, chains, oil and filters the motor is untouched.
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