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Old 10-18-2012, 02:30 AM   #1
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Just wondering about Harleys.

I have a GS and a Tiger. I've had a 1000DL, KLR, Versys, Virago 920, '82 KZ 750, and a Honda S90 back when the earth was still cooling. Started riding eons ago, but with a 31-year break. So, a geezer-newby .
Anyway, I've only ridden one HD. It was a Sportster and I wasn't impressed.
But, I find myself casting furtive looks at HDs and I don't know why. I don't think the forward controls are very comfortable and at 6'3" the short seat seems kinda awkward.
Asking this august brain-trust, is there a HD that I might like, given those caveats?
How about similar bikes? Roadliners, Vulcans, Victories, etc... I like the looks of the Speedmaster, but 865 seems a little lite.
I'm not going to run out and write any checks, I'm mostly curious as to opinions, but positive input will probably lead to test rides. I'm looking for experienced riders to help me sort through the complex number of models.
I'll always keep the GS, but I'm looking to broaden my experience.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:15 AM   #2
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Look at a Triumph Thunderbird if you are interested in a cruiser. Great build and performance.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:26 AM   #3
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Look at a Triumph Thunderbird if you are interested in a cruiser. Great build and performance.
I'll second that. Had a GS last year, bought a Thunderbird Storm this year - great bike with a very addictive power delivery.

Test rode the equivalent Harley (Fatbob) before deciding - no comparison. Triumph is faster, goes round corners and stops better. And cheaper. And less 'fag-like'
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:23 AM   #4
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865 is not too small. A really great motor.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:10 AM   #5
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You will find any Harley cruiser to be very heavy compared to your current ride.
Prior to a purchase you may want to rent one for a day to get familiar with it. Many dealers have an "open to close" rate that is affordable. I had a Softtail Classic and a Roadking Classic and would never consider another Softtail. The RK handles and rides way better. HD's are more expensive than the others you mention.

Triumph Tbird is very nice but nearly as heavy as the HD.
Speedmaster or America are good bikes. 865 is not too small. They perform well and you could buy one of each for the cost of a Roadking.

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:51 AM   #6
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Every HD dealership around me does demo days once or twice a year. Get out there, and spend half a day riding every single bike they make.

The last time I went, I found I could drag a peg on every single model, just on the (guided) test ride.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #7
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Being on the taller side myself, found the sportsters to be cramped and clownish feeling. A brawler solo seat on a newer street glide is about the most comfy and relaxed riding position ive ridden, and the floorboards allow many knee angles once the heel shifter is removed. Here is an example of the sheer size difference between rigs. After owning 40 bikes and riding countless others of all makes and models, have concluded what many others have already found out..there is no feeling like being on a snorting harley..period. The build quality, performance, sound, comfort and ease of maintenance are all icing on the cake.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:24 AM   #8
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Sportsters are made to need upgrades. like most Harleys, just more so. They need seat and suspension badly and a bigger tank for most.

After you do that they make a nice bike. You can buy an 883 cheap used low miles, bore to 1200 and have a fun bike, with the shorter gearing, small port heads it has huge torque. Still 883 insurance rate.

The touring models are much better out of the box. They still like fork and shock upgrades, but it is not critical.

Many of the factory demos have a free 4 hour ride program. Be early, they sell out fast.

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Old 10-18-2012, 08:59 PM   #9
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Get a Road King and get rid of the GS, you don't need it.

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Old 10-18-2012, 09:18 PM   #10
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Look at any Victory and you will not be disappointed. Most Victory dealers have bikes you can test ride anytime. Try a Kingpin, Cross Country, Vegas, Hammer, Jackpot, Vision or Judge. All great riders with plenty of power and torque. Most reliable motorcycle I've ever owned. Tires, oil and regular maintenance. That's all I've needed in my 7 years of ownership. I can't say that for most of my Harley riding friends. I'm not a Harley hater, just a Victory Lover. Although I'd own a XR1200, nice bike...
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:52 AM   #11
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Look at any Victory and you will not be disappointed. Most Victory dealers have bikes you can test ride anytime. Try a Kingpin, Cross Country, Vegas, Hammer, Jackpot, Vision or Judge. All great riders with plenty of power and torque. Most reliable motorcycle I've ever owned. Tires, oil and regular maintenance. That's all I've needed in my 7 years of ownership. I can't say that for most of my Harley riding friends. I'm not a Harley hater, just a Victory Lover. Although I'd own a XR1200, nice bike...
+1. I'm 6'4" myself and currently ride a Vstrom, DR650, WR250R and have owned many other dual sport or adventure bikes.

Last year, I volunteered at a buddy's shop to lead the Victory demo rides when they had the victory demo truck there. Before then, I had never rode a Victory, although I had admired some of them. So that day, I pretty much rode everything in their fleet multiple times and came away with a totally different attitude about their bikes. Great motor, great 6 speed gearbox, ABS, smooth and a lot of fun. I think I came away liking the Hard Ball the best, but I had a blast on every single one of them. I actually really liked that wild looking Victory Vision and how it rode, but the Cross Country was a nice bike too for a full on touring bike.

I have nothing against Harley's either, but I think Victory has quite the bike and just isn't noticed until you spend some time on one.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:26 PM   #12
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If you compare a lower end Victory to the Sportster, you will be amazed how much better the bike is. Better seat, suspension, and MUCH better power. So much more for your money.


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Old 10-20-2012, 06:12 PM   #13
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If you compare a lower end Victory to the Sportster, you will be amazed how much better the bike is. Better seat, suspension, and MUCH better power. So much more for your money.


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so the smaller actually fun to ride bikes are lower end?

thats great thinking!

man i cant wait till i can afford a $20k+ roadking, goldwing, victory UFO looking son of a bitch so i can have a high end boring as hell road barge.

btw, all the bikes mentioned are great bikes, thats just stupid thinking.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:35 PM   #14
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so the smaller actually fun to ride bikes are lower end?

thats great thinking!

man i cant wait till i can afford a $20k+ roadking, goldwing, victory UFO looking son of a bitch so i can have a high end boring as hell road barge.

btw, all the bikes mentioned are great bikes, thats just stupid thinking.
That isn't what he said. What he said was that the lower end Victory was a lot better than the lower end HD. That's all; he didn't say anything about how either compares with the highend bikes, or with anything else.

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Old 10-20-2012, 09:04 PM   #15
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That isn't what he said. What he said was that the lower end Victory was a lot better than the lower end HD. That's all; he didn't say anything about how either compares with the highend bikes, or with anything else.

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i understand that.

except i happen to have a sporty 1200 roadster, and have no desire to own any of the road couches of any manufacture. problem with that is, my bike is extremely well made and fit and finish is still excellent, and thats on my low end bike, that is now 7yrs old and has 22k rough miles. before i bought my roadster i tested a whole bunch of bikes, most were technically superior, except the 1200r just 'felt' like a motorcycle.

might as well call the bonneville, the thruxton, the w650 and now 800, the duc monster...i could go on, low end bikes.
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