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Old 11-03-2012, 09:38 PM   #1
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Rocket 3 Roadster - Harley Thoughts

Hey guys, has been a while since I have been on this forum, but had a question that I expect I can get some honest feedback on with a bit of a limit to the bashing if I go to either a Triumph or Harley forum.

I recently sold my '07 R1200 GSA and have continued to ride my '05 Harley Road King Custom. I have done a lot of upgrades to this bike, engine, suspension, many custom parts - it is one of a kind and set up for me to enjoy around town or on thousand mile trips. Lots of storage, comfortable, decent performance.

The down side is really only the vibration and the fact that I often smell of fuel when I get back from a ride (they have never been able to get it to not run a bit rich).

Anyhow, I have owned many Triumphs in the past and really love their bikes. I have lately been considering the Rocket 3 Roadster as a replacement for my 40,000 mile Harley. I can get a really good deal on one right now from a local dealer as well.

The Harley has copious amounts of storage with hard bags and a Tour pac. If I go to the Rocket I will have to pick up bags (probably Corbin beetle bags) to even get anywhere near the storage of the Harley and even then it will be short.

The main reasons for my potential move is better performance (the 2300cc Rocket 3 has it in spades), the improved breaking (Rocket comes with ABS - the brakes on my '05 Harley are weak to say the least), and the thought that I could easily get 100k miles out of that big Triumph in-line three cylinder. It also seems like it will take less general maintenance as they are at 10K mile intervals.

The down side to the Rocket 3, aside from the storage, would probably be the cost of replacing that 240mm rear tire every 6-8,000 miles.

Would love to hear you guys thoughts. I am not touring as much as I used to on the Harley. So aide from some commuting (mostly highway), it will get take on a few 500 mile trips and maybe 1 1000+ mile trip per year. I put anywhere from 5-10,000 miles per year on my bike in general.

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Old 11-03-2012, 10:01 PM   #2
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For neato cruisers...look here :
-XR1200(too sporty?)
-V-Rod Street rod(nice mid moutn controls...nice motor

VMAX(to be an ass on?)

The Rocket 3 Roadster is pretty epic though.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:10 PM   #3
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For neato cruisers...look here :
-XR1200(too sporty?)
-V-Rod Street rod(nice mid moutn controls...nice motor

VMAX(to be an ass on?)

The Rocket 3 Roadster is pretty epic though.
Thanks, but at 6'5" with a 38 inch inseam, all of those look like mini-bikes to me. I am way too big to ride them. Really, its either keep the Harley or get the Roadster. Yea, there are other cruisers out there, but none that I would consider for various reasons.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:13 PM   #4
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:33 PM   #5
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Get the Rocket

I just went down earlier today and put a down on a new 2013 Triumph Rocket Roadster. I am also tall (6'6") with a 36" inseam and the bike fits me quit well. My current ride is a BMW R1100GS that I love and it's a bike I would never get rid of.
I rode the Harleys, then the Victory's which are all good in my opinion, but the Rocket feels better and the performance for a large bike is astounding, handling is very good as well for such a large bike. Best thing it brought a huge smile on my face when I first road one. Tomorrow I pick mine up and the fun begins.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:30 AM   #6
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Triumph builds a really nice bike these days. I've owned several of the modern ones and never had a problem with any of them. I've ridden the Rockets but never owned one. I really liked the roadster version. Outstanding performance and it felt much lighter than it actually is. The touring version, on the other hand, seemed like you could feel every ounce of it. Just gave me the impression of an overweight machine. Might also be nice to have the liquid cooling when you're stuck in our Dallas traffic.

I do like Harleys, but I've owned most of the other brands as well. I'll buy any of them that feel good to me and I think are built well. If you've ridden the bike and like it, I'd say go for it. You only live once. And if you're dealing with RPM Cycles, they will treat you right. It's my favorite dealership in the Dallas area.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:30 AM   #7
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I'm just the right size for my XR1200 (5'10", 180lbs). I sat on a Rocket 3 and felt like a midget. Please post pics when you get it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:29 AM   #8
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I put 14000 miles on an 08 R3 in 08. Added EDGE 103XL bags on EZ Brackets and a medium bag straped to the rear seat. Plenty of space.
Rode all over New England and PA with all my H-D buds and the R3 leaves them for DEAD on all the hills.

Having had 3 Harly 1200's and an Evo as well as a twin cam 88 I'm fairly well versed in the H-D bikes. As well, I've been on two 110 inch bikes owned by friends.

The R3 playes in a completly different time zone. The motor is outstanding. If there are any hills involved or you don't like grtting stuck behind 5 semi trucks, well, there you go. It's not for everybody but you'll know in 5 minutes after a ride if you want it or not.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:02 AM   #9
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Love the Rocket the only problem is you have to look at it! Might be the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. I'm not saying that would stop me from buying one though, I'd just close mybeyes until I got on that's all.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:18 AM   #10
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You are partly right

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Love the Rocket the only problem is you have to look at it! Might be the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. I'm not saying that would stop me from buying one though, I'd just close mybeyes until I got on that's all.
When I first saw the Rocket I thought "That thing is ugly". After looking at a few on line and reading more about it, I found it wasn't as ugly as I had made it out to be. The "thing" kind of grows on you. I now look at it in a different light. Black out a few more parts here and there, maybe a pinstripe job and it could be quite beautiful. I now really like the looks of it but yes, it does take to getting used to.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:26 AM   #11
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When I first saw the Rocket I thought "That thing is ugly". After looking at a few on line and reading more about it, I found it wasn't as ugly as I had made it out to be. The "thing" kind of grows on you. I now look at it in a different light. Black out a few more parts here and there, maybe a pinstripe job and it could be quite beautiful. I now really like the looks of it but yes, it does take to getting used to.
I have to agree. The dual headlights and the basic analog gauges look fantastic to me. It has everything you need and nothing you don't, IMO. In fact, the fact that it is so basic (engine, tires and gauges), no fluff, is a really nice feature.

It looks like a stripped down roadster, which is exactly what it is.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:41 AM   #12
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I guess it is a matter of preference - of the bikes that I own or have owned, this is the only bike that my wife considers "sexy."


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Love the Rocket the only problem is you have to look at it! Might be the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. I'm not saying that would stop me from buying one though, I'd just close mybeyes until I got on that's all.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:07 AM   #13
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I guess it is a matter of preference - of the bikes that I own or have owned, this is the only bike that my wife considers "sexy."
My experience too. Er, not with your wife, mind you. Women in general. I've owned everything from BMWs to Harleys to custom cafes to full out custom choppers. For whatever reason my matt black Roadster is the first to consistently get any attention from the ladies. And at a not exactly attractive 61 years of age, I'll take any "hook" I can get.
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My experience too. Er, not with your wife, mind you. Women in general. I've owned everything from BMWs to Harleys to custom cafes to full out custom choppers. For whatever reason my matt black Roadster is the first to consistently get any attention from the ladies. And at a not exactly attractive 61 years of age, I'll take any "hook" I can get.
Not that this would matter to a Chaplain.
LOL, no, I have caught my limit as it were.

The ministry elements aside;

Really, after having owned the RK for 7 years and having been around both Harley and Triumph in that time - I have to put my bid in on the Triumphs being more mainteance free. Anything mechanical requires some maintenance. However, having searched the internet for issues I am finding few solid results aside from some of the early Rocket 3 bugs that had to be worked out. I wish my experience with the HD had been the same. Having to have the top in rebuilt at 30k was a bit concerning.

I am not going to dog HD for this, as things happen. However, and maybe its a volume issue, but most of the guys I ride with have had multiple HD's in the period I have had mine. From early '07 through '09 things were just not good. The new design seems better, but is not without its issues - if you happen to be in the top 10% of HD riders (by mileage - which many of the guys I ride with are). While you can put big miles on a HD, it will typically not be without some level of mechanical management (read, time in the shop).

I have seen the insides of a V-twin and a R3 engine. Vast differences, not just in design, but in the heaviness of the componentry. The R3's guts are quite heavily made. Yea, it makes for a heavy bike, but it also speaks to its potentail for durability (in my mind).

In then end (and I do do a lot of the maintenance myself), I see taking the R3 in maybe every other year for a 20k checkup/service over 1-2 trips per year on the HD. I currently only get 6-8k out of a back tire on my HD (due to it being the older design and me running custom wheels front and back). So aside from the increased cost (maybe $100 more) for a rear tire on the R3, I see the mainteance cost swing going to the R3.

To get the same lift in performance (103 V-twin) and brakes (ABS), I am looking at, quite seriously a 10K difference (if I stayed with a bagger - 4-5K if I dropped to a Fat Boy). That is a pretty good jump and the one other element that we tell anyone who ask us about HD ownership that we tell them hands down - "do not let your warranty run out!"
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