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Old 11-04-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Changing sprockets on Tiger 800XC

I'll reach 30K on my Tiger in November. I'd like to change out the sprockets on the bike myself. I'm not the mechanic type but have done some stuff on the bike like installing fog lights and heated grips. The problem is i really don't know how. I could figure it out but first i want to reach out to the Tiger 800 community for help. I want to drop a tooth of the front sprocket and go down to 15 to get more low end grunt and probably keep the same number of teeth on the back.

Can any of you share insights on the right sprockets to get and how to install. The back looks kind of obvious but the front not so much. Do i need to change the chain at the same time and which chain should i get and who from? Photos would be helpful and any other tips i could use. I'm sure i'm not the only one so whatever you can share could help hundreds of people.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #2
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If you have 30K, you should definitely change both sprockets and the chain. I recommend a DID 525VM2. It is very high quality and not too expensive. It is also an Xring.

You will need a large socket to loosen the nut on the front sprocket. I can't remember the size. Loosen the front sprocket before removing the chain, an air impact wrench makes it a cinch to remove. The rear is self explanatory.

You will need a chain breaker and rivetting tool. Motion Pro makes a good one. I bought one made by RK.




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I'll reach 30K on my Tiger in November. I'd like to change out the sprockets on the bike myself. I'm not the mechanic type but have done some stuff on the bike like installing fog lights and heated grips. The problem is i really don't know how. I could figure it out but first i want to reach out to the Tiger 800 community for help. I want to drop a tooth of the front sprocket and go down to 15 to get more low end grunt and probably keep the same number of teeth on the back.

Can any of you share insights on the right sprockets to get and how to install. The back looks kind of obvious but the front not so much. Do i need to change the chain at the same time and which chain should i get and who from? Photos would be helpful and any other tips i could use. I'm sure i'm not the only one so whatever you can share could help hundreds of people.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:11 PM   #3
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If you have 30K, you should definitely change both sprockets and the chain. I recommend a DID 525VM2. It is very high quality and not too expensive. It is also an Xring.

You will need a large socket to loosen the nut on the front sprocket. I can't remember the size. Loosen the front sprocket before removing the chain, an air impact wrench makes it a cinch to remove. The rear is self explanatory.

You will need a chain breaker and rivetting tool. Motion Pro makes a good one. I bought one made by RK.
This one here? What size do I need?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:36 AM   #4
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This one here? What size do I need?
Yes the 525, but that is just part of what you need. You can go to their Tiger800 kits page and it has the whole shebang.
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/5130...-tiger-xc.html

You can call these guys up and they are good about answering questions. I have had good service buying from them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:34 PM   #5
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Yes the 525, but that is just part of what you need. You can go to their Tiger800 kits page and it has the whole shebang.
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/5130...-tiger-xc.html

You can call these guys up and they are good about answering questions. I have had good service buying from them.
I found that but for some reason it won't let you select 50 for the rear sprocket.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM   #6
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I found that but for some reason it won't let you select 50 for the rear sprocket.
Ok just ordered the set. I had to call them because they only offered 46 through 49 teeth of the rear sprocket via the web site. They got me a 50 for the rear but it bumped up the price to 195 vs 190 quoted on the site. That was because it was a better quality sprocket than what comes in the kit according to the guy on the phone. I'm hoping that i can get some help with putting them on from the local San Diego SDAR crew.

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Old 12-23-2014, 12:59 PM   #7
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If you have 30K, you should definitely change both sprockets and the chain. I recommend a DID 525VM2. It is very high quality and not too expensive. It is also an Xring.

You will need a large socket to loosen the nut on the front sprocket. I can't remember the size. Loosen the front sprocket before removing the chain, an air impact wrench makes it a cinch to remove. The rear is self explanatory.

You will need a chain breaker and rivetting tool. Motion Pro makes a good one. I bought one made by RK.

If you look at the Spec for the DID 525VM2, it is rated for just over 8,000lb of tensile strength with a maximum of 750cc recommended ( no doubt for off road use and likely 900cc for on road). I also don't think the chain represents the best value for your money considering the cost. Perhaps consider the GB525XSO-124 by RK with 8,850 lbs for just over a buck or JT JTC525X1R124L with 8,930 lbs of tensile strength for right around 65 sheckles shipped. Just my two cents :o))

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Old 12-23-2014, 10:04 PM   #8
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If you look at the Spec for the DID 525VM2, it is rated for just over 8,000lb of tensile strength with a maximum of 750cc recommended ( no doubt for off road use and likely 900cc for on road). I also don't think the chain represents the best value for your money considering the cost. Perhaps consider the GB525XSO-124 by RK with 8,850 lbs for just over a buck or JT JTC525X1R124L with 8,930 lbs of tensile strength for right around 65 sheckles shipped. Just my two cents :o))

You do realize that you are replying to thread that over two years old.
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Old 12-24-2014, 03:44 PM   #9
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I realize that threads often get revived and that people still read older threads and may want more "current" input. Thank you for your concern though.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:39 AM   #10
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Its a 36mm nut and the std chain is 122 links for the XC and 120 links for the roadie.

There is a lockwasher crimped on to it.

I just changed the front sprocket -1T to a 15 tooth.

What I did..

remove 8mm bolt holding gear shifter.
remove 2 x 8mm bolts holding sprocket cover on.

Un-crimp the lockwasher carefully.

slide on the shift linkage temporarily*

put in neutral and get someone to operate the rear brake

I used a rattlegun to remove the sprocket nut - its on tight with threadlocker.

removed lockwasher

take off shifter linkage again

slipped the chain and sprocket off the spline without adjusting the chain tensioners - there is about 35mm of slack and you can rotate the sprocket as you remove to gain some slack - sounds odd but when your in there you will see what needs to happen.

put on new sprocket - tip fit chain to sprocket to chain THEN slip both on spline again get some clearance by rotating the sprocket same as when removing.

put on lock washer BUT don't crimp it there yet.

threadlock sprocket nut, install to 85Nm (93ft/lb) torque and crimp lock washer again.

adjusted chain tension to 35mm slack.

lubed chain

replaced sprocket cover used threadlocker on bolts.

replaced gear linkage bolt - use threadlocker here too.

Took for blat and enjoyed the extra pickup and low speed rideability.

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:11 PM   #11
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Its a 36mm nut.
Can you point me to the right socket i need to add to my tool kit?
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:30 AM   #12
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Just be sure you have the bike in neutral & use the back brake to loosen the front sprocket nut (36mm). If you try to loosen it with the bike in gear, then it will put strain on the transmission. With the bike in neutral, torq it back on while holding the back brake.
On the rear sprocket, make sure you buy a new bolt kit. To remove the old bolts always turn the nut, NOT the bolts. Always use loctite & a torq wrench.
Your new chain will have a master link. Make sure it faces forward. Like a fish swimming up stream. If you've never put on a master link, then you may want help from somebody with experience. If you put it on wrong, then it will come off.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:30 AM   #13
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If you've never put on a master link, then you may want help from somebody with experience. If you put it on wrong, then it will come off.
Last time I changed a chain was on my Honda TransAlp in 97 or so. It shouldn't be too hard to just take the swingarm out and leave the chain closed, right? That's what I did last time.
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:05 PM   #14
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Just be sure you have the bike in neutral & use the back brake to loosen the front sprocket nut (36mm). If you try to loosen it with the bike in gear, then it will put strain on the transmission. With the bike in neutral, torq it back on while holding the back brake.
On the rear sprocket, make sure you buy a new bolt kit. To remove the old bolts always turn the nut, NOT the bolts. Always use loctite & a torq wrench.
Your new chain will have a master link. Make sure it faces forward. Like a fish swimming up stream. If you've never put on a master link, then you may want help from somebody with experience. If you put it on wrong, then it will come off.

Why do you need to order/use a new bolt kit for the rear sprocket and what is your source for this?
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Old 12-31-2014, 06:08 AM   #15
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Why do you need to order/use a new bolt kit for the rear sprocket and what is your source for this?
The rear sprocket bolts tend to get messed up when you remove them. Not all of them but one or two is enough that you need new ones. On all my dirtbikes, I replace the bolts. I haven't done my rear on the Tiger but I'm sure they sell a sprocket bolt kit.
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