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12-04-2012, 07:28 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Naperville
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Naperville Scooters: Why Scooters? Why Naperville? Why now?
I purchased my first scooter this fall. I bought the bike as a cheap and desperately needed form of transportation, which became a hobby, then an obsession. It is now a business plan. I hope to open Naperville Scooters, a dealership, by May of 2013. In short, buying a scooter is one of the best things I have ever done, and I hope to share that joy... Naperville Scooters. Why Scooters? Why Naperville? Why Now? Why Scooters?
Why Naperville? Naperville, Illinois is a perfect town for small businesses, especially a scooter dealership...
Why Now? I believe a Naperville Scooter Dealership would prosper in any economy, good or bad.
Why me?
Suppliers ![]() I am looking at several potential distributors, and my two leading suppliers are Kymco USA and Bintelli Scooters. Both offer a nice range of scooters, ranging from smaller bikes to mid and maxi sized scooters. Both have reputations for quality, reasonable pricing, and great customer and dealership support. Sources of Revenue: I plan on revenue coming from four main sources.
Expenses I plan to keep a close eye on expenses.
Marketing I would market through various means, traditional as well as new age.
With anticipated first year expenses to be $125,000, I would be extremely pleased breaking even in the first year. I clearly have lots of work to do. But that doesn't deter me from my goal. Opening Naperville Scooters in May, 2013. Ken Follow Naperville Scooters on Facebook
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2009 Kymco Agility 125 Have fun and enjoy the ride! KennyT screwed with this post 12-05-2012 at 09:11 AM Reason: typos/additional content |
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12-04-2012, 07:33 PM
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Captain Oblivious
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: Duvall, WA.
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Best of luck for your plans !
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12-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Temecula, So. California
Oddometer: 1,365
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Sounds like you've done your homework Kenny, this country needs more optimists like you! I sincerely wish you the best.
BTW-Dont discount Genuine scooters as well. KYMCO is great, so is Genuine...I have personal knowledge of both (As a long-time scooterist I have never heard of Binitelli FWIW) Keep us posted!
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12-04-2012, 08:03 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2012
Location: central valley, california
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I'm excited for you also. It's great to see such enthusiasm. I'm following along on facebook also.
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12-05-2012, 03:01 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Naperville
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Hi Tork, Gogordy, and Greyhound. Thanks! Genuine would have been great, being just outside of Chicago, but are only accepting experienced dealerships at this point. Kymco I like for many reasons. Bintelli new distributor based out of Florida. Sell bikes made out of Znen mfg. in China (yes China). Have heard great things about them (two year warranty, etc).
Thanks again guys! Ken
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12-05-2012, 05:30 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Roswell, GA
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Glad to hear you are following your dream and have a well thought out business plan - best of luck to you!
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12-05-2012, 07:13 AM
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Nobody Home
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(this was posted in another thread but I wasn't sure if you saw it)
Kenny, this is the scooter to which I was referring in my PM to you. For everyone else; I recently took a trip to France. In Paris, I think scooters/bikes are almost as prevalent as cars (about a 60/40 car-to-bike ratio). Scoots and bikes are allowed to filter and lane-split. Rush hour is basically a stop-light drag race (that is, crazy/nuts). I'm willing to bet that if you ride a scoot/bike, you're easily home an hour before your neighbor who drives. Most, if not all, scooters have hand mitts and skirts. I bought a pair of Tucano Urbano hand mitts and put them on my Reflex. They are awesome and have allowed me to ride, with my mid-weight gloves, in 20º F morning temps since my return. The skirt stays in place when you ride, keeping you warm (out of the airflow) and dry (if it's raining). There must be helmet laws in France because I did not see any helmet-less riders. However, they do not seem to like to wear any other moto specific gear (jackets or pants). A lot of women ride scoots as it's common to see riders with fur-rimmed hooded jackets and high-heeled boots. Both Tucano Urbano and Bagster (a French company) make hand mitts and skirts (among other accessories). The TU hand mitts seem to be most popular while the Bagster skirt is most often seen. I know Bagster's US distributor is in Naperville (I contacted them when I was searching for soft luggage for my TransAlp). Since scooters seem to have a reputation as being "summer" transport, if you could make them a little more weather impervious, they might be viewed as a viable three season option.
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12-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Temecula, So. California
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Quote:
Here in Southern California we just turn the heater to "high" in the winter ![]() Seriously, good advice and I know several riders (also here in So-Cal) who use those when it gets really cold. You know, like in the mid 60's!
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12-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Naperville
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Hi Soboy and Bronco. Thanks!
Bronco, I will post this today on Naperville Scooters Facebook Page! Interesting. Love options to keep us warm in cool weather! Something else to sell in my dealership too! Thanks again! Ken
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12-05-2012, 10:54 AM
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta Burbs
Oddometer: 510
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Kenny- you have passion and that's a key to success. Really like the idea of including Kymco's in your inventory if you can swing it- they are a widely recognized and respected brand.
I will admit in all my years of riding I've never heard of Bintelli, but then again I hadn't heard of SYM until about 2 years ago, so what do I know... Best of luck with your plans- Naperville is a great community and you'll have lots of opportunities to leverage the many events they have to show off your scooters.
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12-05-2012, 02:15 PM
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Nobody Home
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Anything I can do to help, just ask. Don't forget that my wife is a small business owner, in Schaumburg. You may pick her brain if you see the need. Her business has grown 5-10%, each year, over the last 10 years. To do that well in a crap economy is pretty impressive. Have a good business plan in place, stick to your guns and you should be OK.
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12-06-2012, 12:20 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Dec 2007
Location: BayArea
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With experience in the scooter industry I would say do not carry Bintelli or any china scoots. They are bascially just like any other chinese scooters, ie a marketing company here in the US buying from a chinese manufacturer with their own specs (colors etc) and slapping the Bintelli name on basically the same chinese scooters that everyone else has. All the talk about quality control is BS..they all claim that but the reality is that is not the case. The $50k service number is also BS too...maybe true if that includes all of a shops service and not just for the Bintelli brand. Stick with Kymco, SYM, Genuine..basically any of the Taiwanese brands and you'll be okay. I personally know and worked with one of the largest chinese scooter importers in America..the guy imports thousands of chinese scoots a year and is one of the main distributor/suppliers of various chinese brand scoots. He pretty much supplies most of the West Coast. Anyways enough of my ramblings, I just say that as a shop there is no profit to be made with chinese scoots.
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12-06-2012, 01:50 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Palatinate, Germany
Oddometer: 328
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Same opinion as DaBinChe.
Focus on quality (Kymco, Honda & Co) exclusive_or on cheap. But any mixture will detoriate towards the lower quality. And at least in the EU: selling is nothing without competent service. Warranty is a legal obligation. Do you have a qualified master mechanic too? alicethomas screwed with this post 12-06-2012 at 01:58 AM |
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12-06-2012, 11:11 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Jax, FL
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Very exciting, brother. Very exciting. You have answered most of my questions. I'm still going to call and chat a little bit. Maybe next week.
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12-06-2012, 06:37 PM
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Grumpy Old Goat
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Lidsville
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If I were you, I would also entertain a business case that includes time rentals or sharing. ZipCar is already established and is growing by leaps and bounds in college cities.
It's another revenue stream that makes sense especially in a region whose sales might be affected by climate (snow).
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