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Old 12-09-2012, 08:28 PM   #1
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Michigan Helmet Laws - A Detailed Look Into a Newly Helmetless State

Last year Michigan repealed their compulsorily helmet law, which went into effect in early April 2012.

Here's an overview:
http://www.mlive.com/opinion/index.s...earned_in.html

Here's even more detail they offer (from the first page link)
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/...e_crashes.html


I imagine right now many who have had their license for awhile are comfortable with a helmet and don't buy into the helmetless argument. It will be interested to check back in a few years as new riders start up and many of whom will not be using helmets because the law permits it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:40 AM   #2
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Congratulations on your new found freedom of choice.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:23 PM   #3
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Congratulations on your new found freedom of choice.
What about the law of gravity. And why do we need laws, to force people into wearing helmits? I told a friend. It should be common sence, to wear a helmit.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:51 AM   #4
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Oh man, don't get me fired up about the helmet thing again. ..couldn't you have waited until after the holidays?
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:04 AM   #5
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Oh man, don't get me fired up about the helmet thing again. ..couldn't you have waited until after the holidays?
I can't be held responsible for your emotional state.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:07 AM   #6
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I have no problem with it. I'm not barred from wearing my helmet and we do need the organ donations. . I was out on a three week long ride when it was signed into law. Crossing the border back into Michigan, I didn't notice hardly any riders who had shed their helmets. The ones I have seen since are the usual cruiser suspects who also ride bar to bar. Yes, it seems like there has been an increase in reported motorcycle fatalities since.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:56 AM   #7
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I'll wear mine, thanks. Now we can start putting this to good use:
http://www.michigancatastrophic.com/
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:32 AM   #8
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Let those who ride decide. Keep your laws off my person.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:05 AM   #9
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Let those who ride decide. Keep your laws off my person.
In Canada, all provinces and territories have mandatory helmet laws, and have been for years now.

Why can't all states just impose mandatory helmet laws, and put an end to the discussion once and for all.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:54 AM   #10
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In Canada, all provinces and territories have mandatory helmet laws, and have been for years now.

Why can't all states just impose mandatory helmet laws, and put an end to the discussion once and for all.
Because that's ethically wrong. It's coercion; it's force; it's a violation of the rights of free people to make their own choices about their own lives.

That's why.

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Why can't all states just permit fully grown adults the freedom to choose for themselves, and put an end to the discussion once and for all? Or, better yet, just outlaw all those dangerous motorcycles, which are very,very dangerous regardless of whether the rider is, or is not, helmeted.
I personally do ride with a helmet and live in a no-helmet state, while I ride my very,very dangerous motorcycle.
+1. This.

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:16 PM   #11
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Because that's ethically wrong. It's coercion; it's force; it's a violation of the rights of free people to make their own choices about their own lives.

That's why.

+1. This.

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Explain to me the basis of seat belt laws then. All 50 states require their use.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:33 PM   #12
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not that simple ...

I agree, except ....
As a culture, we just don't let people die, regardless of the fact that they were "making their own choices." So, they do not suffer the ultimate consequence - dying. Someone must bear the cost of their medical treatments (the insurance company, assuming the victim has any/enough - through other ratepayers). And whether alive or dead, the family suffers and that can be a direct (i.e. welfare) or indirect drain on other citizens.
So should I be forced to foot my portion of the money that gets spent on the person who is seriously injured? Isn't that a violation of my rights?

I think it is a more difficult problem.
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Because that's ethically wrong. It's coercion; it's force; it's a violation of the rights of free people to make their own choices about their own lives.

That's why.

+1. This.

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Old 01-01-2013, 02:00 PM   #13
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In Canada, all provinces and territories have mandatory helmet laws, and have been for years now.

Why can't all states just impose mandatory helmet laws, and put an end to the discussion once and for all.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." The 10th

Exactly one year ago today the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th were "repealed" or more accurately transgressed by a treasonous legislative and executive (NDAA). So yes, the precedent has been set. Up to half of the people are willing to acquiesce if polls are to be believed.

A camper rode his 50 cc a quarter mile to the showers at 3 mph and got whacked for $250 plus license suspended and car insurance raised. Another, while taking his scoot out of winter storage, rolled down his driveway to bump start it. The moment the front tire past the curb a leo wrote ticket for no no helmet then impounded for no insurance.

A young man crossed the boundary of his farm. His lights were off mid-day in a clear field. A leo who had been spying on him with binoculars from half a mile away felt it necessary to shoot the un-armed rider who protested the harassment.

Risk taking associated with the dangers of freedom such as riding helmet-less can to some extent be offset with better toilet training. Perhaps de-emphasizing the baby-sitting function of public schools and a parent licensing would serve us better.

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Old 12-29-2012, 06:31 AM   #14
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Let those who ride decide. Keep your laws off my person.

Idiot.

Let those who pay into the Michigan Catastraphic fund decide.

You have proven yourself unreliable for anything but spleen and sound bites.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:11 AM   #15
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Let those who ride decide. Keep your laws off my person.

So, Dakez, do you extend this philosophy of "Keep your laws off my person" to the abortion issue too?

(Let those who ride decide.)



















































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