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Old 02-03-2013, 09:59 AM   #1
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Ethanol Free Gas Petition

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...lable/lhq1qgW4
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:31 AM   #2
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I hate voluntarily putting my name on any Gov't list, but it is for a good cause - OURS
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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Get TuneEcu. Add +50 % fuel to all maps. Run with E85 and save Polar ice packs?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:01 AM   #4
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I think it's likely a good thing to petition, although the corn and ethanol lobby seems to be quite strong. Not a good reason to accept it, though. A better thing might be to oppose the presence of lobbyists and corporate money in politics. Then, a lot of shit that isn't good would go away. This might belong in the politics forum?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:05 AM   #5
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Get TuneEcu. Add +50 % fuel to all maps. Run with E85 and save Polar ice packs?
Interesting. Are you actually doing this?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:10 AM   #6
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Interesting. Are you actually doing this?
I haven't yet tried it. I'm gathering the courage to test it next summer.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:33 AM   #7
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My interest in keeping pure gas available is this......

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Old 02-08-2013, 09:45 AM   #8
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Get TuneEcu. Add +50 % fuel to all maps. Run with E85 and save Polar ice packs?
Ethanol, (at least in the US) is far more energy intensive and generates more greenhouse gasses than gasoline. If you are looking to decrease GHG, than LNG or CNG (not readily available in motorcycles yet) are the best bet. As far as motocycles go, if this is your primary concern, a KTM twin is probably not your best bet. Lots of small thumpers out there that will get 65 mpg+, which will be a far more substantial reduction in emmissions than using any particular fuel source.

Ethanol is also very expensive in the US right now due to poor corn crops, (which of course is also driving the food costs up).
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Ethanol, (at least in the US) is far more energy intensive and generates more greenhouse gasses than gasoline. If you are looking to decrease GHG, than LNG or CNG (not readily available in motorcycles yet) are the best bet. As far as motocycles go, if this is your primary concern, a KTM twin is probably not your best bet. Lots of small thumpers out there that will get 65 mpg+, which will be a far more substantial reduction in emmissions than using any particular fuel source.

Ethanol is also very expensive in the US right now due to poor corn crops, (which of course is also driving the food costs up).
I don't know if using E85 makes your bike any more eco friendly. Probably just the opposite like you said. Only thing I know is that it's a bit cheaper here.
-RE85 1,07 € / litre, $5,35 / gallon. 85 % ethanol.
-95E10 1,65 € / litre, $8,35 / gallon. 10 % ethanol.
-98E5 1,70 € / litre, $8,61 / gallon. 5 % ethanol.

And maybe I'm more interested about the fact could it be done than any real savings etc.
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I am fortunate enough to have a gas station two blocks from my house has ethanol free fuel which is the only thing I use now (unless I'm on a ride and can't help it). Extremely fortunate since I did not have this option in Charleston, SC.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:35 PM   #11
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Just a reminder...there is an app to help find ethanol-free gas called PureGas.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #12
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Just a reminder...there is an app to help find ethanol-free gas called PureGas.
Got it, and very handy away from home.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #13
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I signed the petition, but what does Brazil do ? Isn't all their gas 100% ethanol.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:16 PM   #14
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I signed the petition, but what does Brazil do ? Isn't all their gas 100% ethanol.
Nobody tried biodiesel? guess it would take some major remapping
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I signed the petition, but what does Brazil do ? Isn't all their gas 100% ethanol.
No, besides Diesel we have 2 choices of fuel at fill-up stations
1- Alcohol
2- Gasoline (contains 25% ethanol)
3- (What ?! You said 2 above!!!) Some stations have a pure gasoline option, but it is rare! Very rare! Usually stations in rich neighborhoods for folks with expensive equipment! The Brazilian national oil producer (PETROBRAS) is the only one I know of. They sell a gasoline called "podium", which is allegedly the "good gas"!
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