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Old 02-07-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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Montana 650 - Loss Satellite Reception

Hi There,

I recently purchased the City Navigator and loaded it into my Montana 650 for use on my motorcycle.
The problem I am encountering is that I commonly get the "Lost Satellite Reception" message from the unit. There is a wide open view of the sky. The error seems to mainly occur after making a turn and accelerating whereby the pointer heads off at an angle kind of bisected by the road turned onto and the original direction, then the error message shows up. It takes a km or two before re-establishing the satellites and showing proper progression on the unit. I have never encountered this problem before while using the unit for hiking, kayaking or on my ATV, although these uses would be at lower speeds.

Anyone else experience a similar fault?
Any suggestions?

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:31 AM   #2
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I'm guessing here, but it sounds like you might have a loose receiver in the unit. I seem to remember someone earlier have this issue & repair it, but I think they were maybe in a remote location.

I'd call Garmin Support in Canada 1-866-429-9296 it's usually fast connecting & log your problem.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #3
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Hi There,

I recently purchased the City Navigator and loaded it into my Montana 650 for use on my motorcycle.
The problem I am encountering is that I commonly get the "Lost Satellite Reception" message from the unit. There is a wide open view of the sky. The error seems to mainly occur after making a turn and accelerating whereby the pointer heads off at an angle kind of bisected by the road turned onto and the original direction, then the error message shows up. It takes a km or two before re-establishing the satellites and showing proper progression on the unit. I have never encountered this problem before while using the unit for hiking, kayaking or on my ATV, although these uses would be at lower speeds.

Anyone else experience a similar fault?
Any suggestions?

Thanking You In Avance,
Glenn
I've never had that kind of problem but my wife's 650 lost its antenna connection internally once, and we needed to send it in under warranty for replacement. The antenna problem we had was not intermittent. It was no longer receiving a signal unless we connected an external antenna.

Is your Montana getting interference from other electronics on your bike, or do you have multiple maps enabled, causing a slowdown?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:48 AM   #4
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Is your Montana getting interference from other electronics on your bike, or do you have multiple maps enabled, causing a slowdown?
If you use a XM radio or radar detector, these devices can sometimes cause interference if they are next to the GPS.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:08 AM   #5
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If you use a XM radio or radar detector, these devices can sometimes cause interference if they are next to the GPS.
Wouldn't be a radar detector, that's for sure. Ontario has strict laws against their use.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:32 PM   #6
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If you use a XM radio or radar detector, these devices can sometimes cause interference if they are next to the GPS.
No XM radio.
No radar detector. OPP (Ontario Police) take them and ticket you for having those.
I do have a Scala Rider with Bluetooth connection to my cell phone. Could this be causing any interference?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:30 PM   #7
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I've never had that kind of problem but my wife's 650 lost its antenna connection internally once, and we needed to send it in under warranty for replacement. The antenna problem we had was not intermittent. It was no longer receiving a signal unless we connected an external antenna.

Is your Montana getting interference from other electronics on your bike, or do you have multiple maps enabled, causing a slowdown?
Mine is just intermittent as described.
Only have the City Navigator enabled when used on the motorcycle.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:03 PM   #8
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Hi There,

I recently purchased the City Navigator and loaded it into my Montana 650 for use on my motorcycle.
The problem I am encountering is that I commonly get the "Lost Satellite Reception" message from the unit. There is a wide open view of the sky. The error seems to mainly occur after making a turn and accelerating whereby the pointer heads off at an angle kind of bisected by the road turned onto and the original direction, then the error message shows up. It takes a km or two before re-establishing the satellites and showing proper progression on the unit. I have never encountered this problem before while using the unit for hiking, kayaking or on my ATV, although these uses would be at lower speeds.

Anyone else experience a similar fault?
Any suggestions?

Thanking You In Avance,
Glenn

Check this post........it might help: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798472
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #9
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Check this post........it might help: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798472
Thanks for this link. Very well done "hardening" description!
I will keep this in mind.

FWIW - BTW I get out to SK occassionally, as my daughter lives there. Close to Edam.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:17 PM   #10
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Check this post........it might help: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798472
bummer about lack of antennae support on Montana .. when I informed Garmin about this issue .. they acted like it was not their problem. since my Montana just went pass one year and out of warranty
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:49 PM   #11
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bummer about lack of antennae support on Montana .. when I informed Garmin about this issue .. they acted like it was not their problem. since my Montana just went pass one year and out of warranty
Huh? This is not a broken antenna issue. I just thought an external one might not pick up Scala radio interference.
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Old 10-13-2013, 08:54 AM   #12
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G4 & Radar Detector

To add a little more info. I have experienced the loss of satellites two or three times on my Montana. It has just enough to be a minor irritation. I am using a G4 and a radar detector. On my last 1,000 mile trip, I experienced it for a very short time. The radar detector was not on at that point since I was in Virginia. Whatever is going on is intermittent with me.
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:58 PM   #13
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I am using a G4 and a radar detector. On my last 1,000 mile trip, I experienced it for a very short time. The radar detector was not on at that point since I was in Virginia. Whatever is going on is intermittent with me.
I've only ever heard of it happening on the G9. It's never happened on my Montana, or my wife's, and we're both using G4s.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:50 AM   #14
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The problem I am encountering is that I commonly get the "Lost Satellite Reception" message from the unit. There is a wide open view of the sky.
Where on the bike do you have the gps mounted?
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:11 PM   #15
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Where on the bike do you have the gps mounted?
AMPS rugged mount on the handlebar center between riser clamps
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