ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Fluff > Shiny things
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 02-09-2013, 10:42 AM   #1
panhead_dan OP
motorcycle addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Hermiston, Oregon
Oddometer: 737
Cadillac.

Seems like they are practically giving these cars away! I currently have a '97 STS (wife's) and a '95 ETC which I use as a work truck. I had an '85 Eldorado which was a fine car too. All but the wife's car were pretty inexpensive. My ETC was $2000 when I got it but after 2.5 years of work use, it has needed quite a bit of love (read $$$ and work).
I am actually getting pretty good at fixing these overly complicated cars! I am a carpenter and just about everyone I work with uses a pickup truck that really won't haul much in the way of tools securely while I can haul a ton of tools absolutely securely while listening to the Bose.



Not mine but similar.

.
__________________
Think
Love
Live
panhead_dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 11:30 AM   #2
NikonsAndVStroms
Beastly Photographer
 
NikonsAndVStroms's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Oddometer: 38,003
My friend had an early 90's Caddy like that in the early 2000's....needing quite a bit of love is an understatement

But if you know how to and are willing to work on the cars you can practically get them for free when the current owner gets a repair bill for the cost of the car from a dealer and they don't want to be bothered with it anymore.
__________________
Motorcycles save lives


"It's the game of life. Do I win or do I lose? One day they're gonna shut the game down. I gotta have as much fun and go around the board as many times as I can before it's my turn to leave."
NikonsAndVStroms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 11:42 AM   #3
Range Motorsport
Junk collector
 
Range Motorsport's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Da UP Eh!
Oddometer: 1,652
The Northstar's with head issues are the worst, followed closely by all the others with electrical gremlins.
__________________
2007 KTM Superduke
SNL Will Ferrell Yoga, google it.
www.adventuremine.com
www.upoverland.org
Range Motorsport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 11:51 AM   #4
panhead_dan OP
motorcycle addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Hermiston, Oregon
Oddometer: 737
The problem with Northstars is when they overheat they can be ruined very quickly. No overheat, no problem. I keep an eye on the engine temp and basically run the piss out of it.
The more I learn about this engine, the more impressed I am. 300hp and 305ft lbs from a 4.6L and gets 26mpg on the highway. Not fun to work on but with some research, it's doable.
__________________
Think
Love
Live
panhead_dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 04:04 PM   #5
ImaPoser
adventure imposter
 
ImaPoser's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Oddometer: 15,612
I started researching online as I was thinking of buying a first gen SRX as our family back up car. Holy crap, there are a ton of issues with those things.
__________________
ImaPoser

Save 20% when you open your own smugmug account. Just go here...
ImaPoser is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 04:45 AM   #6
PaddedHat
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Oddometer: 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaPoser View Post
I started researching online as I was thinking of buying a first gen SRX as our family back up car. Holy crap, there are a ton of issues with those things.

A customer of mine drops a huge pile of cash for a new Caddy performance sedan a few years back, (I don't know what the model # is, to be honest I just couldn't give a shit). Anyway, the car is a total piece of shit, ends up at the dealer dozens of times, generates over $8K in warranty work, and eats tires until the day he trades it in. He then gets the exact same POS as a 2013 version. This one was $40K and his trade. I think he might be retarded? Another friend buys a "program car" , a three year old, mid-sized suv with 20K miles on it. His wife spends weeks at a time driving the Caddy dealer's loaner as they attempt to repair the seeming endless engine issues. The car had major problems at least 6-8 times in the short time he owned it. He then dumps the car back to the dealer with less than 100 miles left on the warranty. The dealer confides that his car is one of the worst they have seen in years. I would say that your description of a "ton of issues" might be a bit too kind. More like total shit that I wouldn't waste a dime on.

I don't think that this applies to the OP's ride, it's a lot older and bigger than the turdmobiles I am speaking of. I started my career in commercial and heavy construction almost thirty years ago. Back then it was pretty common for tradesmen to have big old boats for work vehicles. I know of a few who did service work out of the giant station wagons of the day.
PaddedHat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 04:02 PM   #7
Easterner
Just Landed
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: North & West of the Lights
Oddometer: 304
Work truck, I like that. Makes sense even to me.
Easterner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 06:03 PM   #8
panhead_dan OP
motorcycle addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Hermiston, Oregon
Oddometer: 737
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easterner View Post
Work truck, I like that. Makes sense even to me.

Yup.
I carry all the tools I need for concrete work, framing, sheeting of all kinds including drywall. Tools for finish work including laminates, molding, some tile stuff, painting, patching etc,
. Tools for door hardware installation and repair plus all my welding tools, 2 fire extinguishers and a well stocked first aid kit. Not to mention all the food and water I need for a day. All this crap is secured with a push of a button - not only locked up pretty good but with a security system as well.

Of course, this makes my ETC a one seater. (it is crammed full)
__________________
Think
Love
Live
panhead_dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 07:40 PM   #9
Easterner
Just Landed
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: North & West of the Lights
Oddometer: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by panhead_dan View Post
Yup.
I carry all the tools I need for concrete work, framing, sheeting of all kinds including drywall. Tools for finish work including laminates, molding, some tile stuff, painting, patching etc,
. Tools for door hardware installation and repair plus all my welding tools, 2 fire extinguishers and a well stocked first aid kit. Not to mention all the food and water I need for a day. All this crap is secured with a push of a button - not only locked up pretty good but with a security system as well.

Of course, this makes my ETC a one seater. (it is crammed full)
Understood, toolbox on big wheels with multiple access points. And like you said a nice ride to boot.
Easterner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 04:20 PM   #10
TooFast
Studly Adventurer
 
TooFast's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Rocky Mountains
Oddometer: 683
yes I liked the SLRs, XLRs and variants. great expensive cars at bargain prices but beware!!
TooFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 05:42 PM   #11
panhead_dan OP
motorcycle addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Hermiston, Oregon
Oddometer: 737
Cadillac = some really different engineering. It seems overly complicated to me but the ones I have had were damn good cars and I have been able to figure out whatever goes wrong and repair it pretty cheap. They seem to be as reliable as anything else out there as long as you don't let the problems stack up. No diagnostic equipment needed, it's built in.

A friend has an antique. I think it's like a 1930 or so business coupe. Ceramic coated exhaust system, dual mode suspension etc. All stock. I personally stood a nickel on edge on the engine while it was running and i didn't fall over. It makes no sound while running at any rpm.

I'm really glad that used Cadillacs don't have a big following. It's nice to have someone else take the big hit on a $45000 car and they really are a pleasure to drive. I figure, if I have to travel in a car it may as well be a Cadi.
__________________
Think
Love
Live
panhead_dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 02:35 PM   #12
madeouttaglass
The AntiHarley
 
madeouttaglass's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Smithereens- or what's left of it in NY
Oddometer: 3,254
The older ones are much simpler and have even more room. Years ago I flew to Florida and bout an '88 or so Fleetwood Brougham. A mint 7-8 year old example cost about $2500. You could fit 6 bodies in the trunk.
__________________
Our ride across the USA on a Ural Gear Up- http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781149

Escape from NY- http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955520
madeouttaglass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 02:43 PM   #13
DockingPilot
Hooked Up and Hard Over
 
DockingPilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Andover, N.J.
Oddometer: 9,244
Just bought a new 2013 CTS 3.6 Premium. Black/black
Had prior a BMW530 and a 07' SRX
Without a doubt this Cadillac takes the crown. The fit, finish and components are all top notch. And the 3.6 liter begs to be driven fast. I love it.
__________________
Frank Reinbold

"Every bike I ever had, was the best bike I ever had, when I had it"
DockingPilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 02:48 PM   #14
BCC
I know better
 
BCC's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Southern NJ
Oddometer: 7,988
Quote:
Originally Posted by DockingPilot View Post
Just bought a new 2013 CTS 3.6 Premium. Black/black
Had prior a BMW530 and a 07' SRX
Without a doubt this Cadillac takes the crown. The fit, finish and components are all top notch. And the 3.6 liter begs to be driven fast. I love it.
Nice!
__________________
Living the fullest life means leaving a history of goodness behind you for others to remember.

Cherish the memories------Ken OBSC
BCC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 09:01 PM   #15
JR Greenhorn
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JR Greenhorn's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: Litchfield, MN
Oddometer: 335
Quote:
Originally Posted by madeouttaglass View Post
The older ones are much simpler and have even more room. Years ago I flew to Florida and bout an '88 or so Fleetwood Brougham. A mint 7-8 year old example cost about $2500. You could fit 6 bodies in the trunk.
I tend to think that the '77-96 B- and D-body cars are some of GM's best work. Here's mine:



When I bought this '95 Fleetwood Brougham, I sold a car a decade newer worth more than twice what this one was, yet this has easily been the most satisfying car I've ever owned. I bought it with 193k on it, and it's got 252k on it now. Nearly the last of RWD Cadillacs (for a number of years at least), it's powered by a 5.7L LT1 that still doesn't use oil. I put a Class III/IV receiver hitch on it just before 200k, and the 4L60E is still holding up well. I wired in a 7-pin conenctor, but I haven't done trailer brakes yet, so I'm only towing up to 3000lbs (as shown above). I intentionally bought a car that was the last model year before OBDII. It runs well, never hesitates to start (even in the -30F weather we've had recently), and I don't have to chase codes for secondary O2 sensors or other nonsense. Commuting to work, I get 18-19 mpg with this 4500lb car. My best tank was on a trip, at 23 mpg. Towing lighter loads (around 1500lbs), I can still get 16mpg, or more importantly, better than my friend's early 2000's Tahoe gets empty.

This past fall, I bought a '93 Fleetwood Brougham as a parts car (to replace the ugly wheels in the photo above, for starters, and there was some damaged trim on the other side of the car). That '93 had 315k miles on the clock when I bought it, and it ran absolutely great! TBI 350 in that one, with a non-electric 4L60. Certainly electronics were making a big difference in how refined cars felt from one model year to the next in those days. I drove the parts car to work for a while, and other than needing shocks and some sloppy suspension parts replaced, it still was in good shape. It was tempting to just keep driving it to try to get it to 350k miles, but it has 80hp less(!) than my '95, and I didn't want to upkeep consumables on two 250k+ mile cars anyway.



My wife's car isn't a Cadillac, but close. It's the second (final) gen. Olds Aurora. We ended up with one that has the 3.5L V6, which is based of the 4.0L Aurora V8, which itself is a de-bored Northstar with a cheaper intake manifold and injection system atop. The V6 makes do with a cast iron block (which presumably holds heads on better). We got ours used nearly ten years ago for less than $5k, with 130k miles on it. It was absolutely trouble-free until 180k miles. I chased a bunch of issues with it last winter, and with over 215k on it now, it's starting to throw codes again. My wife works 65 miles away from our house, so the miles have racked up quickly the past few years. I'm not sure what she's getting in the cold with winter tires on right now, but in the summer she gets upper 20's for MPG out of it--not bad for a 3800lb+ car.

She's ready for something different now, but last summer our local GM dealer took in a low-mileage (which isn't worth much to me) 4.0L second-gen Aurora on trade. It was an awful light blue color with an even more awful light blue leather interior, and they wanted too much for it ($6k). Still, we thought very seriously about trying buy it. It wasn't on the dealer lot very long at all however, and I still see it driving around town. Somebody bought a very good car, even if they did pay the asking price. What unfortunate colors, though.

JR Greenhorn screwed with this post 02-10-2013 at 09:28 PM
JR Greenhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 03:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014