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Old 07-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #1
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When to get a new helmet?

Answer: any time you see stars. Wyogirl saw stars on Pearl Pass this weekend. Without a good helmet, she would have been taking a helicopter ride.



Even tho she fell to the right, her left wrist was bothering her. Watching the replay, we accused her of trying to brake her fall by pummeling the rocks into fine sand.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:30 PM   #2
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Gotta watch out for the putting-the-hand-out thing. Especially an open hand. Often better to take the impact on the forearm while keeping the fist closed.

There is a gender tendency with this, I have observed that women are more like to put out a hand while men are more likely to put out a fist & forearm. Wife & I have discussed this before. Not an absolute divide of course, but my theory is that it stems from boys being more likely to play contact sports and physically fight, compared to social behavior that girls are more likely to engage in, the "stay away from me, creep" gesture.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:47 PM   #3
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Gotta watch out for the putting-the-hand-out thing. Especially an open hand. Often better to take the impact on the forearm while keeping the fist closed.

There is a gender tendency with this, I have observed that women are more like to put out a hand while men are more likely to put out a fist & forearm. Wife & I have discussed this before. Not an absolute divide of course, but my theory is that it stems from boys being more likely to play contact sports and physically fight, compared to social behavior that girls are more likely to engage in, the "stay away from me, creep" gesture.
We talked about that when viewing the videos in camp that night. I ride the bike into the ground with my hands on the bars. If I'm ejected, it's tuck and roll.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:50 AM   #4
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Gotta watch out for the putting-the-hand-out thing. Especially an open hand. Often better to take the impact on the forearm while keeping the fist closed.

There is a gender tendency with this, I have observed that women are more like to put out a hand while men are more likely to put out a fist & forearm. Wife & I have discussed this before. Not an absolute divide of course, but my theory is that it stems from boys being more likely to play contact sports and physically fight, compared to social behavior that girls are more likely to engage in, the "stay away from me, creep" gesture.
I dunno, years ago I used to flat track race a Honda Oddysee (not the mini-van) most of us had wrist restrains installed, lengths of nylon attached to the steering yoke with loops that you put around your wrists so you couldn't stick your hands out side the cage. I can't remember a roll over that I didn't feel the restraint stop my wrist even though I always meant to keep my hands on the yoke. I also can't remember any uninjured riders that didn't use them.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #5
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:41 PM   #6
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I dunno, years ago I used to flat track race a Honda Oddysee (not the mini-van) most of us had wrist restrains installed, lengths of nylon attached to the steering yoke with loops that you put around your wrists so you couldn't stick your hands out side the cage. I can't remember a roll over that I didn't feel the restraint stop my wrist even though I always meant to keep my hands on the yoke. I also can't remember any uninjured riders that didn't use them.
Probably because there aren't any. The lady we bought my son's beagle from rolled her Oddyysee several years ago.....thankfully the surgeons were able to reattach both arms. Her fingers still tingle a little, but they work fine.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:32 PM   #7
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And if only that guy had gotten away from the line before the bike came up.....
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:08 PM   #8
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And if only that guy had gotten away from the line before the bike came up.....
He's actually standing above a large, wet log that has been put into the road below this very slippery off camber section and is, I believe, ready to spot the section where people tend to get hung up. As usual, the video doesn't do this section justice showing its difficulty - there is a creek and the rocks slope off the 4x4 road at nearly a 45 degree angle. There really isn't a good line through the rocks. I think between our two groups (I was in a second group that went through here) we had 9 or 10 people, including some amazing riders, and only a couple cleared this obstacle.

As for crashing, I don't think putting a hand out is necessarily gender related. I know plenty of men who have broken hands, arms, shoulders, and collarbones because they try to catch themselves when they fall. I think it has more to do with sports and activities when younger. I played competitive soccer and raced mountain bikes and when I fall I tuck everything in and try to land flat without any body parts sticking out. Landing on a forearm or fist can easily get something broken if you fall the wrong way or too far.

I'm just glad she's ok and amazed that she rode those miles and miles of rocks and steepness with an injured wrist after seeing stars! It was hard enough without any injuries!
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:45 PM   #9
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What sucks so bad, is that I was *this* close to clearing it. We decided post ride that the rock was covered in whale foreskin, from all of the damn GS riders dropping their bikes there. It is now forever known as "Whale Foreskin Rock."
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:24 PM   #10
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It is now forever known as "Whale Foreskin Rock."


You were doing better than I would have up until your wheelie ended in a rock. Good job hopping right back on.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:47 PM   #11
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Speaking of helmets, would this one pass inspection?
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:06 PM   #12
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As for crashing, I don't think putting a hand out is necessarily gender related. I know plenty of men who have broken hands, arms, shoulders, and collarbones because they try to catch themselves when they fall. I think it has more to do with sports and activities when younger. I played competitive soccer and raced mountain bikes and when I fall I tuck everything in and try to land flat without any body parts sticking out. Landing on a forearm or fist can easily get something broken if you fall the wrong way or too far.
Agreed, I don't think it is gender related as well. In my senior year of high school football I did a bonehead move and stuck my hand out to catch my fall, no idea why as it wasn't a common reaction for me. My only guess was it was due to lack of concentration as it was a thursday pre-game practice in half-pads. Ended up going backwards over the tackle pile that I didn't realize was right behind me. Trying to catch myself ended in two spiral fractures of the metacarpals in my right hand. I did land very strangely though, like if you make a V-shape with your thumb and index finger and tried to catch yourself with that.
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:14 PM   #13
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I buy a new helmet every time my wife gets herself a new pair of shoes.
Seems fair.

On a more serious note, I got pranged by a car about five years ago, I don't recall even hitting my head during the incident, but a small mark on the back of my then brand new helmet said otherwise. I still suffer from post-concussion issues. So that helmet sits on the shelf collecting dust with the rest of the collection.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:42 PM   #14
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On a more serious note, I got pranged by a car about five years ago, I don't recall even hitting my head during the incident, but a small mark on the back of my then brand new helmet said otherwise. I still suffer from post-concussion issues. So that helmet sits on the shelf collecting dust with the rest of the collection.
Target practice with propane bottle inside. Just say'n.....
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:24 PM   #15
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As usual, the video doesn't do this section justice showing its difficulty - there is a creek and the rocks slope off the 4x4 road at nearly a 45 degree angle. There really isn't a good line through the rocks.
Yeah, it didn't look that bad from the top view, until she started through it. Then I realized how rough it really is!!

It's so easy to view pictures and think "I could sail right through that, standing on the pegs" and so very different when you're the one battling all those rocks!

If I had any suggestions, it would be to try to keep the feet up. Not that I can do it every time, but usually when my feet go down, the rest of me follows shortly.
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