Honda Deauville (NT700V) Discussion Thread - Page 6

2slow · 09-06-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

The current VFR800 with ABS is $ 12,995.
I think when I bought mine in 02 the MSRP was only $ 10,995.

Is this the same American Honda that still has new 2007s selling on Ebay for $7500? They don't seem to be paying much attention to the market.

Dranrab Luap · 09-06-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2slow

Is this the same American Honda that still has new 2007s selling on Ebay for $7500? They don't seem to be paying much attention to the market.

Link please for a brand new ABS VFR for $7500.

koncha · 09-06-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dranrab Luap

Link please for a brand new ABS VFR for $7500.

Non-ABS $7000:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another Non-ABS $7500 in the red/white/blue:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another non-ABS for $6500:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another non-ABS for $6980:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-2...=p4506.c0.m245

Mike Butt · 09-06-2009, 02:26 PM

I like the concept, but you mechanic types sure took the wind out of my sails.

koncha · 09-06-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dranrab Luap

Link please for a brand new ABS VFR for $7500.

ABS for $7900:
http://www.cycletrader.com/find/list...BS%29-95437371

Sorry. That's the best I could do.

There are several for $8300.

Dranrab Luap · 09-06-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by koncha

Non-ABS $7000:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another Non-ABS $7500 in the red/white/blue:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another non-ABS for $6500:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...=p4506.c0.m245

Another non-ABS for $6980:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-2...=p4506.c0.m245

That's a darned good motorcycle for the money.

RedRocket · 09-06-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dranrab Luap

That's a darned good motorcycle for the money.

Yeah, I paid $ 8700.

Infallible · 09-06-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XPADREX

In regards to pricing- if you guys haven't noticed, check out the pricing increased across the board for 2009 and 2010 models from a variety of your regularly scheduled Japanese manufacturers. I got hit mid-year 2009, on items I'd ordered at one price, but later were shipped at a significant price increase.

I don't deal with Suzuki, but the 2009 C50T retails for $9099.

Where's the outcry?

Holy Schnikes what a waste of money. Feel better now? Just because the bike prices have gone up considerably, doesn't make it alright that Honda keeps introducing machines at these prices. It also doesn't mean mean that people will pay that much for that bike, especially during these times. As I said before, Honda will sell very few.

Ducman69 · 09-06-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Infallible

Holy Schnikes what a waste of money. Feel better now? Just because the bike prices have gone up considerably, doesn't make it alright that Honda keeps introducing machines at these prices. It also doesn't mean mean that people will pay that much for that bike, especially during these times. As I said before, Honda will sell very few.

Apple sells very few computers... just 7.6% of the market right now, but they are still VERY profitable.

You can sell a lot at very low margins or you can sell just a few at huge margins. Personally, I prefer to stick with the low-margins volume guys, its more consumer friendly IMO. It looks like Honda is aiming for a 7.6% cut w/ 30% "Honda Tax" on each to compensate for lower sales.

koncha · 09-06-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dranrab Luap

That's a darned good motorcycle for the money.

I know. I've been watching them for awhile. Its one of the few bikes out there right now that I lust after. There are several used bikes out there with less than 3000 miles for about $5000.

That's some insane depreciation for a quality bike.

PizzaHog · 09-06-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by koncha

I know. I've been watching them for awhile. Its one of the few bikes out there right now that I lust after. There are several used bikes out there with less than 3000 miles for about $5000.

That's some insane depreciation for a quality bike.

Per the wiki: According to Honda’s Senior Managing Director, Shigeru Takagi, the new Honda VFR will be introduced in the Fall 2009 and go on sale in Spring 2010. The new VFR will be a 1200cc V-4 and will serve as the company's flagship motorcycle.

koncha · 09-06-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaHog

Per the wiki: According to Honda’s Senior Managing Director, Shigeru Takagi, the new Honda VFR will be introduced in the Fall 2009 and go on sale in Spring 2010. The new VFR will be a 1200cc V-4 and will serve as the company's flagship motorcycle.

Yeah, the depreciation is more than I would have expected.

Not that I am complaining. I wouldn't use the power of the 800cc VFR. What would I do with the power of the 1200cc?

PizzaHog · 09-06-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by koncha

Yeah, the depreciation is more than I would have expected.

Not that I am complaining. I wouldn't use the power of the 800cc VFR. What would I do with the power of the 1200cc?

If the rumors/wild-ass wishes are to be believed, the next VFR will have shaft-drive. I'd actually be looking at a VFR if it was a shaftie.

But I have no experience w/VFR800. WeeStrom was too small; my ST was maybe a tad heavy.You might like the 1200; I'm drooling over the NV800 and/or ST1200 - oooooh, the possibilities.

XPADREX · 09-06-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Infallible

Holy Schnikes what a waste of money. Feel better now? Just because the bike prices have gone up considerably, doesn't make it alright that Honda keeps introducing machines at these prices. It also doesn't mean mean that people will pay that much for that bike, especially during these times. As I said before, Honda will sell very few.

Relatively speaking, today's motorcycles aren't that more expensive when adjusted for inflation, technology, expected serviceable life, and features compared to bikes of yore.

My point was that most people who bought their KLR used 8 years ago might be slightly out of touch with the market- and most manufacturers aren't going to try to float awfully high prices unless it's a true cost, or they think the market will bear it.

People continue to buy R1200Gs's at what might be seen as an outrageous sum. Why is that?

XPADREX · 09-06-2009, 08:41 PM

The VFR is a great bike- but people are weird. They'll pay big $$ for a bike with a European nameplate, but somehow feel that despite their deep-rooted knowledge of Honda quality, can't see themselves paying too much for a "Japanese bike". I've seen it- I don't know if it's latent racism, mere snobbery from marketing way back- but I will tell you that the VFR possesses plenty of trick bits- but it's not cruiserish enough, and it's not being ridden by Spies et al. so it's hard to be a poseur. It's simply a decent motorcycle with high build quality- and sadly, it's been a financial downer every time I've stocked them.

Great bike- but sadly ignored by legions of pirates and stuntaz who make up the bulk of the market.

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09-06-2009, 02:26 PM	#79
Mike Butt Agent Provocateur Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Looking west Oddometer: 55,635	I like the concept, but you mechanic types sure took the wind out of my sails.

09-06-2009, 08:41 PM	#90
XPADREX Funslinger Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Oddometer: 7,743	The VFR is a great bike- but people are weird. They'll pay big $$ for a bike with a European nameplate, but somehow feel that despite their deep-rooted knowledge of Honda quality, can't see themselves paying too much for a "Japanese bike". I've seen it- I don't know if it's latent racism, mere snobbery from marketing way back- but I will tell you that the VFR possesses plenty of trick bits- but it's not cruiserish enough, and it's not being ridden by Spies et al. so it's hard to be a poseur. It's simply a decent motorcycle with high build quality- and sadly, it's been a financial downer every time I've stocked them. Great bike- but sadly ignored by legions of pirates and stuntaz who make up the bulk of the market.