fraser honda

sausage_fingers · 10-21-2009, 08:48 AM

hey everyone ive had an old honda tl 250 sat in my shed for a few years now and dont really no much about it the guy we bought it from told us that it was an old works bike that had been trialed in afric along with this information he toldus that the frame wasnt standard he said it was a fraser frame and wile i have done loads of research into it i havent realy come up with much any info that you may have would be greatly aprechiated as it is a bit of a project and me and my dad would like to restor it to its former glory any pictures of the fraser tl250/305 or info would help greatly i will post a picture of ours in a few days once ive worked out how

roadholder · 10-21-2009, 10:40 AM

There's a note on the Fraser Honda in "Four Stroke Finale".....

It basically states that David Fraser Products (Redditch, UK) produced a chrome plated kit frame, including replacement sump and assorted mounting bits reputed to reduce weight to a competitive (for the time?) 209 lbs.
Also 312 cc piston kits and other goodies.

I've never seen one in the flesh but if it added ground clearance as well, it would have been a marked improvement as this and weight were the TL-250's major vices in my experience.

Still, 209 lbs is as heavy as some 500's in pre-65 class trials competition these days!

Thumpermeister · 10-21-2009, 08:24 PM

There were a few frame kits provided for the Honda TL's including this one, the Seeley frame and the Miller High boy frame.
Most were reputed to get weight down to 200 lbs or so, which was a useful improvement.

There's some old tests on the latter here:

http://www.twnclub.ch/classic_trial_...250Highboy.htm

sausage_fingers · 10-22-2009, 04:21 AM

thank you both for this info it has helped alot and ive relised that my bike is definatly the fraser model and im looking into finding more info about the fraser company its self and looking to restore it to match the black and white picture that roadholder supplied any colour pics would be great

brewtus · 10-22-2009, 06:21 AM

Wow, that sounds like a really fun project! Pics??

roadholder · 10-22-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sausage_fingers

thank you both for this info it has helped alot and ive relised that my bike is definatly the fraser model and im looking into finding more info about the fraser company its self and looking to restore it to match the black and white picture that roadholder supplied any colour pics would be great

I wish I knew more about them but that pic and blurb is the only thing I've seen of them over the years.
There might be a few floating around the UK (considering it's source) so perhaps a few posts in a "Honda" or "Classic" trials forum there such as at Trials Central etc. along with other internet research would be in order. Someone will know them.

Good luck with the project and yes, post some pics when done!

welder · 10-22-2009, 09:31 PM

here ya go(not mine though) just googled fraser honda

Thumpermeister · 10-23-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by welder

Nice looking kit. That solves the problem of the near unobtainable stock side panels everyone seems to be looking for with these bikes!

Rare CAN-AM/Armstrong trials bike in the background too.

brewtus · 10-23-2009, 07:57 PM

Lobo50 · 10-24-2009, 08:36 AM

This is a youtube video of a Fraser Honda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3rTiO35hdI

10-21-2009, 08:48 AM	#1
sausage_fingers ^OP n00b Joined: Oct 2009 Oddometer: 2	fraser honda hey everyone ive had an old honda tl 250 sat in my shed for a few years now and dont really no much about it the guy we bought it from told us that it was an old works bike that had been trialed in afric along with this information he toldus that the frame wasnt standard he said it was a fraser frame and wile i have done loads of research into it i havent realy come up with much any info that you may have would be greatly aprechiated as it is a bit of a project and me and my dad would like to restor it to its former glory any pictures of the fraser tl250/305 or info would help greatly i will post a picture of ours in a few days once ive worked out how

10-21-2009, 10:40 AM	#2
roadholder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Oddometer: 1,989	There's a note on the Fraser Honda in "Four Stroke Finale"..... It basically states that David Fraser Products (Redditch, UK) produced a chrome plated kit frame, including replacement sump and assorted mounting bits reputed to reduce weight to a competitive (for the time?) 209 lbs. Also 312 cc piston kits and other goodies. I've never seen one in the flesh but if it added ground clearance as well, it would have been a marked improvement as this and weight were the TL-250's major vices in my experience. Still, 209 lbs is as heavy as some 500's in pre-65 class trials competition these days! __________________ Doug 2006 KTM 525 EXC 2002 Yamaha FZ1 1973 Norton Commando & other old stuff

10-21-2009, 08:24 PM	#3
Thumpermeister roost maker Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Frosbite Falls Oddometer: 1,145	Fraser There were a few frame kits provided for the Honda TL's including this one, the Seeley frame and the Miller High boy frame. Most were reputed to get weight down to 200 lbs or so, which was a useful improvement. There's some old tests on the latter here: http://www.twnclub.ch/classic_trial_...250Highboy.htm

10-22-2009, 06:21 AM	#5
brewtus Buffoonery, Inc. Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM. Oddometer: 2,273	Wow, that sounds like a really fun project! Pics?? __________________ Work hard. Play hard. Team Dead End. The drinking team with a Trials problem. 2-Time winner of the coveted "Best Shenanigans" award at Capt. Rick's annual BBQ.

10-22-2009, 09:31 PM	#7
welder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria B.C. Oddometer: 1,320	here ya go(not mine though) just googled fraser honda __________________ Anything is possible if you don't know what your talking about!

10-22-2009, 04:21 AM	#4
sausage_fingers ^OP n00b Joined: Oct 2009 Oddometer: 2	thank you both for this info it has helped alot and ive relised that my bike is definatly the fraser model and im looking into finding more info about the fraser company its self and looking to restore it to match the black and white picture that roadholder supplied any colour pics would be great

10-23-2009, 07:57 PM	#9
brewtus Buffoonery, Inc. Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM. Oddometer: 2,273	__________________ Work hard. Play hard. Team Dead End. The drinking team with a Trials problem. 2-Time winner of the coveted "Best Shenanigans" award at Capt. Rick's annual BBQ.

10-24-2009, 08:36 AM	#10
Lobo50 Adventurer Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Northern Utah Oddometer: 65	This is a youtube video of a Fraser Honda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3rTiO35hdI

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