1986 Elite 80...drive belt issues?

Brewcity · 06-24-2010, 01:11 PM

I recently got an ugly little 1986 white Elite 80, which is soon to be army drab green with maybe a red star up front

The engine runs okay for sitting around the last two years however, there is a real "grinding like" noise coiming from the transmission area. It's kind of high pitched but not a squeal.... it gets worse as I pick up speed at about 40 it feels like something is slapping around in the rear end, or the belt is slipping... I back off a little bit and it stops. I haven't opened up the cover yet, and really have no idea how the tranny's on these work. Anyone else experience similar? Is there any other things I should be looking at besides just the belt? Any thoughts??? Thanks!

approachbears · 06-24-2010, 03:29 PM

I don't have an Elite 80, but he cover of most CVT's is just there to keep dirt and road out. There's often nothing that can't run without the cover in place. So pull the cover, fire it up and see what's going on.

There are lots of basic primers online that explain how cvt transmissions function. Here's a good start:
http://flexistentialist.org/blog/arc...transmissions/

mikenpalsie · 07-10-2010, 05:17 PM

that cover keeps the starter gear centered, it wont start with the cover removed, i tried it once.

fullmetalscooter · 07-11-2010, 03:54 AM

old belt? Driven face or drive face worn out with age? It's a can of worms till you look. you ll have to make Variator/Clutch Tool to take it all apart. but this one if for a helix and elite 250. Don't know if it well fit your elite 80. search google for elite 80/125/150 forum. They ll know more then I do about them. Also search honda elite 80 manual.pdf. More then likely someone has scanned the OEM service manul for it and posted somewhere. I know you can find the helix and elite 250 online for free. Also you may just have worn out wheel bearings. http://picasaweb.google.com/rickruss...76783514049442
http://picasaweb.google.com/rickruss...76783514049442

this show how a scooter trany works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o7MaM6tk9M
here a video of the elite 50 tear down. it about the same and it's an 8 part video . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQWT2TEt6ZA

Brewcity · 07-21-2010, 12:20 PM

Got the transmission taken apart, and most of the bearings inside the transmission were shot. There was zero oil inside and good amount of metal shavings from what appeared to be the countershaft rubbing against the internal plate. Just ordered a "good condition" used transmission off ebay and we'll see how that works.

06-24-2010, 01:11 PM	#1
Brewcity ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Oddometer: 46	1986 Elite 80...drive belt issues? I recently got an ugly little 1986 white Elite 80, which is soon to be army drab green with maybe a red star up front The engine runs okay for sitting around the last two years however, there is a real "grinding like" noise coiming from the transmission area. It's kind of high pitched but not a squeal.... it gets worse as I pick up speed at about 40 it feels like something is slapping around in the rear end, or the belt is slipping... I back off a little bit and it stops. I haven't opened up the cover yet, and really have no idea how the tranny's on these work. Anyone else experience similar? Is there any other things I should be looking at besides just the belt? Any thoughts??? Thanks!

07-10-2010, 05:17 PM	#3
mikenpalsie mikenpalsie Joined: Sep 2007 Location: northern il. Oddometer: 42	noises that cover keeps the starter gear centered, it wont start with the cover removed, i tried it once. __________________ mikenpalsie

07-11-2010, 03:54 AM	#4
fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off Joined: Apr 2009 Location: BC Oddometer: 2,029	old belt? Driven face or drive face worn out with age? It's a can of worms till you look. you ll have to make Variator/Clutch Tool to take it all apart. but this one if for a helix and elite 250. Don't know if it well fit your elite 80. search google for elite 80/125/150 forum. They ll know more then I do about them. Also search honda elite 80 manual.pdf. More then likely someone has scanned the OEM service manul for it and posted somewhere. I know you can find the helix and elite 250 online for free. Also you may just have worn out wheel bearings. http://picasaweb.google.com/rickruss...76783514049442 http://picasaweb.google.com/rickruss...76783514049442 this show how a scooter trany works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o7MaM6tk9M here a video of the elite 50 tear down. it about the same and it's an 8 part video . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQWT2TEt6ZA __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body,but rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting WHAT A RUSH, WHAT A RIDE. Got to go places to be, people to kill and far to many woman. fullmetalscooter screwed with this post 07-11-2010 at 04:08 AM

07-21-2010, 12:20 PM	#5
Brewcity ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Oddometer: 46	Thanks! Got the transmission taken apart, and most of the bearings inside the transmission were shot. There was zero oil inside and good amount of metal shavings from what appeared to be the countershaft rubbing against the internal plate. Just ordered a "good condition" used transmission off ebay and we'll see how that works.

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06-24-2010, 03:29 PM	#2
approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Nuevo Mexico Oddometer: 917	I don't have an Elite 80, but he cover of most CVT's is just there to keep dirt and road out. There's often nothing that can't run without the cover in place. So pull the cover, fire it up and see what's going on. There are lots of basic primers online that explain how cvt transmissions function. Here's a good start: http://flexistentialist.org/blog/arc...transmissions/