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Old 01-14-2011, 03:17 PM   #616
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okay, where do i get me one of them?

thought it was taking the piss, i started laughing when the guy used it for "measuring" but then he showed the wire cutters, WTF??
and i loved the feverish sawing of the metal pipe, class. and im always after a shield for hand-to-hand.

its worth getting for that "shshshshtiiing" sound as you slice up your veg, so where do i get one then? i want a proper one, not some (yes im aware of the irony) cheapo chinese copy. you know what i mean.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:03 PM   #617
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A guy on the german forum I'm in has a friend who actually bought one - surprise, it's chinese crap.

Or a cheap, but expensive copie of the real chinese army one. Bad steel quality.

Though i'm definitely for a spade in the pack.
The US Army entrenching tool is nice, the russians had a nice combi tool (friend has one) with spade, axe and saw. It's russian, and the tools have play around the common handle, but it seems solid enough.

Otherwise I'm in the Leatherman and swiss officer knife crowd

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Old 01-15-2011, 10:06 AM   #618
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okay, where do i get me one of them?
looked online, genuine chinese army shovels (the strong ones), £67 from 'inovationworks' in america. already expensive, but i might've been tempted till i saw the £311 postage to britain, are you serious? i dont think so.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:45 PM   #619
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looked online, genuine chinese army shovels (the strong ones), £67 from 'inovationworks' in america. already expensive, but i might've been tempted till i saw the £311 postage to britain, are you serious? i dont think so.
You got a link?
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:49 PM   #620
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You got a link?
http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/10185619/...ional-military

there are others cheaper but this is the first one that comes up on google.co.uk (searching for "chinese army shovel") so i had a look. i would prefer to buy one in britain for obvious reasons, the decent ones are all around £60+ so if i can keep the postage down, you know? wouldnt mind one from abroad if costs were reasonable but £311? thats got to be a mistake

if you look on the manufacturers website the WJQ-308 is 155yuan, about £15

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Old 01-15-2011, 11:24 PM   #621
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Last USGI etool I bought for $12 plugs shipping on eBay.

Today I used one to chop the ice out of a parking spot for a neighbor. Took about 30 seconds.

But I've never used it to slice a potato.
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:48 PM   #622
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I just bought myself a nice CS Finn Bear.



Not what I'd call a "survival" knife but a pretty nice and kinda cheap utility knife that is easy to carry around.
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:31 AM   #623
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http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/10185619/...ional-military

there are others cheaper but this is the first one that comes up on google.co.uk (searching for "chinese army shovel") so i had a look. i would prefer to buy one in britain for obvious reasons, the decent ones are all around £60+ so if i can keep the postage down, you know? wouldnt mind one from abroad if costs were reasonable but £311? thats got to be a mistake

if you look on the manufacturers website the WJQ-308 is 155yuan, about £15
Would this do the trick?
http://www.varusteleka.fi/product/la...tty/_2I80TUFLR
19€ and no need to order from the other side of the world. German army surplus I believe. They have 207 pieces in stock. I've used a similar one and it's good for chopping wood, digging and some trench combatry if the need arise . Packs small also, I've seen photos of the pouch installed on a pannier case. It's designed to be carried around your waist in a combat belt.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:13 AM   #624
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cheers autodidact, thats pretty cool too.

when i showed my mate the chinese army video he said 'ive got one of them in the car' and got it. its a 1967 german army one very similar to the chinese one, without the saw/axe edges or bottle opener, or wire tool etc but it has a pick spike on it and its a good solid tool.
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Old 01-17-2011, 06:04 PM   #625
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:20 PM   #626
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A few things I've learned along the way:

If it isn't full tang, don't even consider it.

Unless you're a SEAL, skip the black "non reflective" blades. They make sharpening a nightmare.

Look at the handle. If you can imagine a way to break it, eventually it will break.

The raw steel that was used is everything. If you're buying a blade produced in North America Cold Steel is the only company that has their steel figured out.

Don't cheap out. If you buy a cheaper blade you'll just end up upgrading and spending more money in the long run.

What sheath does it come with? You won't find an aftermarket sheath that fits right, so get it right when you're making your purchase. Kydex seem to be very popular among the spec op boys, and who knows blades better than them?

Those are my humble suggestions. I'd either buy a Cold Steel product or spend big bucks on a Japanese blade, probably a tanto.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:18 AM   #627
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cheers autodidact, thats pretty cool too.
No problem, obviously the language might be a problem so here's a direct link to their "Shovels" section
http://www.varusteleka.fi/group/lapiot/211
and the e-mail if you wan't to inquire:
kauppa@varusteleka.fi

"Repro" stands for reproduced, a copy of an original and "käytetty" means used surplus.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:15 AM   #628
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If you're buying a blade produced in North America Cold Steel is the only company that has their steel figured out.

I would add Bark River Knife & Tool to that list.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:40 AM   #629
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I would also add TOPS to that. But I definitely agree that for the "best bang for the buck" Cold Steel is probably the best out there.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:57 AM   #630
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Oh - I forgot about ESEE for quality/bang for buck.

A lot of quality out there - it is really hard to go wrong!
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