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Old 01-25-2011, 12:09 PM   #16
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Because

I have a very understanding spouse. This year will mark the 4th year in a row that I get an extended bike trip.

I'm secure in my employment, get up to 5 weeks off per year (3 Weeks Vaca, and usually a couple of weeks Lieu time) and make a good salary.

My wife understands my need for Adrenaline and Adventure. I left my position as a Full-Time Paramedic and don't get the excitement I used to. I just have to balance my trip time with her work schedule and her vacation requests.

I usually come home happier than when I left and I'm much more pleasant to be around. Its also good to spend some time apart....

I hope to retire in another 15 or so years and be able to get a lot more time exploring... (I'm 36 now)
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:52 PM   #17
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When I got my first bike, a well-used 2000 Aprilia Pegaso in October, I would jump on it at the slightest opportunity and just go ride wherever. I would try and leave work early and just head in a direction. I would often get lost and have to re-trace my steps to get home. When I stopped to turn around, I would make a note of some landmark so I could look up where I went on Google Maps when I got home. These were all day trips, and often only for a couple of hours because that's what I had in between work and other responsibilities.

I'm getting ready to leave my job and travel for a much longer period because it just made sense to do so at this point. If I hadn't been stuck in a dead-end job, I would have stayed and found some way to do both, but as it happened I will have the chance to travel for a significant period of time, money permitting.

An adventure doesn't have to be a RTW trip or even an overnighter - like someone said previously, start your bike and ride.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:25 PM   #18
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I constantly churn on this question. I have been in the same profession (or at least manufacturing trades/tech/engineering at different times), but I've never managed to stay with one employer long enough to break the 3 week vacation time barrier - sometimes by choice, life circumstances or company failing - it's just worked out that way.

In 2003, I decided I had had enough. Wasn't married, no kids, a little savings and I wanted to travel. First time I quit a job in my life, without a new job to walk into. It was great. I figured I had enough skills - from trades to engineering - to land on my feet. I was 43. I spent next year traveling - not just on motorcycle. After that I spent a year working for myself, through a friend, doing some CAD work (architectural). When that dried up, I landed the job I currently have - back to the cube in engineering. It's been 5 years now and I'm ready for my next move.

My take is this; if you have the time and the means, take the time. Especially in your 20's. You have the rest of your life to have a career. You may find that having a "career" is nice, but it's not like that, in and of itself, determines success or happiness. Especially in todays age of turnover, I wouldn't worry too much about not having longevity at any one workplace on my resume.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:43 PM   #19
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So how do you all feel about those asking for money on this site for nothing but personal gain?
If I had the money, several friends on this site would never need to work again.

Sunday I gave a couple bucks to a homeless man. Why? Because it was about 5 below and both him and his dog were hungry. Would he waste it on beer? I don't care, I gave him the opportunity to chose.

People will waste money to make some rich preacher richer. Does the 700 Club really need another commercial sponsor? Does the Pope really need another gold crucifix?
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:47 PM   #20
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sunday i gave a couple bucks to a homeless man. Why? Because it was about 5 below and both him and his dog were hungry. Would he waste it on beer? I don't care, i gave him the opportunity to chose.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:56 PM   #21
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It happens to all of us now and then. "Headcount adjustments", I mean. You can work the net and bang on doors for a while, and there's always those posponed home improvement chores to finally attend to. Last time it happened to me I refloored the dining room and put a new roof on the casa. Sitting at home can get expensive that way. A nice long trip is not only a reasonable thing to do, it's a lot cheaper. Why not head to Newfoundland? If someone wants me, they can leave a message and I'll call them back.

Carpe that diem. You have a limited supply.

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Old 01-25-2011, 04:55 PM   #22
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I took my first long road trip when I was 26. I was 58 when I took my next one. Don't wait that long. Others have said any bike ride/trip is an adventure no matter the length. They are so right! I work four ten hour days and get three days off every week. A weeks vacation gets me ten full days off. It's amazing just how many places you can visit in ten days.

I do most of my own maintenance on the bike and camp most of the time I travel to keep costs under control.

Even a day trip can be a great adventure. No big trips for me last year but I took some really great weekend, overnighters, and daytrips. It was Great!

When I was 26 I kept the costs down by purchasing a Honda 750 that was about to be repo'd. I gave the owner some cash and paid the note off on a bike that he never really rode. I put 41,000 miles on that bike and sold it for a couple hundred less than I paid for it.

When I was 57 I shopped for a month or so then one day at the shop I found the bike I have now(or it found me). 20 minutes later I bought it. I have put 81,000 miles on that one and I am a much better person because of it. Just waiting for spring and my first adventure of the year!

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Old 01-25-2011, 05:09 PM   #23
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Just my 2 cents.....I'm 57, make six figures, and wondering about the same question you are.....If you asked my advise.....

You are in the beginning of your real earning years. Earn and save. Accept the fact that two or three one-week trips a year will simply be where you are in life at your age. Save all the money you can so you can retire early (if you're lucky). And, as you get older and move up the ladder in your proffession you'll get more and more weeks of vacation per year. By the time your fourty you should be able to take two weeks off a couple times a year. Better yet, do all this by starting your own business. Be your own boss, but be prepared to work hard to build up a successful business.

The reason I make this case is: you do not want to get old (70+) and end up with nothing. You do not want to end up in a nursing home living on just social security (if that will even exists by your time). So, have some fun but be prudent and save your money, hit the gym several times a week and eat right to stay in good physical condition.

Your time will come....

Your only alternative is to take 6 months to a year off right now and get some of this out of your system so you can go back to work on building that sucessful career. Thats what I did when I was 23.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:23 PM   #24
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I'm 48 and planing my first month long trip this summer. I understand where you're coming from. There are things to accumulate in your 20's and 30's that don't seem important later on.

I remember going fishing with my son and father. The boy was under 16 and fished for free. My father was over 65, on a pension and fished for free. The "working taxpayer" had to pay for his license. That about says it all.

It takes years to gain enough equity to do these things. You can do them now, but when you're done, it's back to square one with your finances.
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:51 PM   #25
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:42 PM   #26
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If I had the money, several friends on this site would never need to work again.

Sunday I gave a couple bucks to a homeless man. Why? Because it was about 5 below and both him and his dog were hungry. Would he waste it on beer? I don't care, I gave him the opportunity to chose.

People will waste money to make some rich preacher richer. Does the 700 Club really need another commercial sponsor? Does the Pope really need another gold crucifix?
There is a slight difference in giving a homeless man and his dog a couple of bucks because they're cold, hungry etc, (good on you by the way) and giving to someone who's having the time of his life travelling.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:45 PM   #27
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I was able to insert a clause in our employment contract stating we could take leave up to a year and return without prejudice.

My co-workers thought I was crazy, they didn't understand. I said since we don't receive health insurance from our employer, really we need assurances. My employer thought that was alright because no one could ever afford to be away that long no matter what the reason.

Although I had something else in mind
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:48 PM   #28
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I'm 48 and planing my first month long trip this summer. I understand where you're coming from. There are things to accumulate in your 20's and 30's that don't seem important later on.

I remember going fishing with my son and father. The boy was under 16 and fished for free. My father was over 65, on a pension and fished for free. The "working taxpayer" had to pay for his license. That about says it all.

It takes years to gain enough equity to do these things. You can do them now, but when you're done, it's back to square one with your finances.
Of course maybe it's better to do these things now, especially if your single, it's a lot harder when you've a family that needs you and not just for the money you bring home It's bad enough when I ride out of the yard for a day trip and look at my dogs sad faces
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:40 AM   #29
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I'm 52.....was as strong as a bull all my younger life up to about 10 years ago. I was rear ended and suffered 3 herniated discs in my neck that needed repairing. THAT finished my physical life enjoyments in one millisecond! I have a plate in my neck 4 wood screws and 2 more surgeries when they figure I've suffered long enough. Bastards! I haven't worked a steady job un-medicated for longer than a year for that 10 year span. So what I am saying is....you can never count on getting to that golden time with all your health to allow you to do what you have wanted, planed for all your life. I couldn't....until I found adventure touring on my cheap ass KLR...it is the only thing I can do now that doesn't hurt enough to force me to stop that too! I take anywhere from 2 weeks to a month at a time riding to far off destinations before I'm totally done. Yes .....I have a family that is very supportive of me....I earn enough to pay my own way by slowly fixing bikes to pay for the trips and not take from the household funds.
We were working very well to be able to do what we wanted before this accident hit me....but now.....we have to deal with one salary and cut way down on expenses compared to before.
IMHO....If you are dying to travel and can afford to do so now.....do it. As long as you have some skills to find work when you return or while on a trip. You haven't the family responsibilities to worry about or to keep you home. It is a huge jump to go from a steady pay check to nothing but what you have in your wallet......think about it...can you deal with that? It's stressful almost as much as having to bring in that money every week.

I'm lucky too, I have travelled all my life to Europe, USA and around Canada with my family and also on my own starting at the age of 10.....flying to England for the summer on my own.

I will travel as much as I can until I can't physically cope with the pain any more. Then it will be time for a soft chair and the TV or PC for my golden years remembering what I have seen and places I've been to.

Which is better? To do it all now...or to wait and do it in your golden years?????

You tell me?

I just hope if you choose the golden years, you make it....not like me!
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:35 AM   #30
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In my experience:

80% retired/semiretired
10% techies who can move in and out of contracts and jobs easily
10% blue collars who can also move in and out of jobs easier, particularly if they work for themselves
3% margin of error is reserved for standard office jobs that save up their vacation and "work something out"

This is for the US at least... I do think more people could get extra time off _without pay_, they just don't ask for it. Still, it is sort of depressing when you go to Horizon's Unlimited meeting and the youngest person there is late 40s. (I'm 31)

IMO, if you don't do it now, it probably won't happen. You will get married, have kids, and you probably will want to spend time with them - not going to Cambodia to dirtbike. Kids grow up, you have college costs, you retire - if you live long enough to retire - and realize that life is expensive and you don't have a regular job income anymore and staying in dingy hostels sharing a bathroom with a dozen dirty 20yo hippies and camping kinda sucks.

Not to mention that your experiences will be vastly different at that age. Chances are that you will not be in great shape anymore and you won't be taking 3 days off to trek to the top of some cool mountain in Nepal during your ride, or go skinny dipping with some skanky Dutch girls on vacation in Thailand, etc. Instead, you worry about your X medication/condition and how your kid is doing. Age will limit your experiences. Maybe your experience makes you wiser and you appreciate things more, but you will simply miss out on a lot of random stuff and stories.

The other problem is that the World is Getting Pretty Damn Flat. It is so cheap to fly these days that many places in the World are completely overrun with tourists and that corrupts local cultures. You will go to a lot of places and realize that the only reason why they ride elephants in Thailand or have a silk-weaving village or whatever is to get your tourist dollars and it's not like it was XX years ago when that is what they actually did. Even the poor people in the jungle watch CNN and MTV and it's just not the same and becoming worse and worse each year. In 20-30 years, even fewer authentic places will remain. My personal goal is to check out these cultures and peoples before their identity morphs into a random poor middle America neighborhood.

I don't know if there is a great solution to to your question, but one option is to do Fly & Rides. Fly out on Friday, spent a week riding, and come back Sunday. It is quite a decent option. You are not wasting time riding to get there, and you can cover quite a bit of ground and see a lot during that week. This is why I started a thread that you may find useful and that I hope more people will contribute to: Where in the world can you find cheap bike rentals?
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