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Old 02-01-2011, 12:25 PM   #391
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By virtue of this thread, BMW Motorrad is going to receive a TON of bad publicity if they don't handle this properly. It seems to me they're punishing the people who are actually using the bikes the way they're intended (and marketed) to be used.

Stay optimistic!
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:30 PM   #392
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I'm sorry to hear the verdict. That sucks big time. Hopefully they will come to their senses. I've been really enjoying your report, as I hope to do a similar ride next year, with a friend who's riding a F800gs as well. I guess I'll stick with my old DR650.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:37 PM   #393
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Wikipedia shows RON rating 91 (in brochure) as equal to 87 AKI ( canada, USA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

So their remap should allow them to be able to expect to run 87 octane without any problems............

Since the first of January there is no longer RON 91 avaiable in Germany (and also other states of the EU). You must by RON 95 even if you're engine can stand more bad fuel. But this is not the problem, because RON 91 / RON 95 is still good fuel that a modern engine can handle. But it get's worse if you used bad fuel that's only about 80. If you read the description of this BMW-manual then you'll see that you can drive "even" 91. That's a joke / fake because they say in the same way that you can not use more bad fuel (like 80). It is only PR how to tell a customer that his bike is no longer designed for real adventure-rides. And this is valid for all Vendors like BMW , KTM, Yamaha , Honda and so on ....
If you want to ride such places with a modern bike, than it is urgent to get your injection system adjusted to this bad fuel. I know that KTM do this but only if you order your bike with this "special" request. On the other hand this means more fuel consumption with regular fuel and less power. That's the point to think about a older dual-sport that never had this problems. In the end both of them will have the same fuel-consumption and the same power if you have modified the modern engine to run such bad fuel.
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:44 PM   #394
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Laugh Please!

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...Alberto didn't want this thread turning into a technical discussion...
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Guys please post your tech comments HERE and leave this thread for 'ride report' material

We appreciate your opinions but lets post on the proper threads.

No 'malfunctioning F8GS' comments are more than welcome here
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:28 PM   #395
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Thumb I'm a believer again... not the end

Good news!
BMW Canada has stepped up and in particular Island BMW from Victoria.
We got an email today from them saying 'engine will be covered under goodwill warranty by BMW Canada'

I am sure they were well aware of the consequences of turning their backs on us. The ADV community's support surely helped.

Today has been a rollercoaster of a day. All the way down...all the way up.
We can't wait to get back on the road again .......... to bring you more stories and photos for your leisure.

Cheers fellow adventure riders
Alberto.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:32 PM   #396
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Good news!
BMW Canada has stepped up and in particular Island BMW from Victoria.
We got an email today from them saying 'engine will be covered under goodwill warranty by BMW Canada'

I am sure they were well aware of the consequences of turning their backs on us. The ADV community's support surely helped.

Today has been a rollercoaster of a day. All the way down...all the way up.
We can't wait to get back on the road again .......... to bring you more stories and photos for your leisure.

Cheers fellow adventure riders
Alberto.

Woohoo!!!

This is so great to hear! Wish you all the best, hope you can get back into the trip with the slightest continued hassle as possible



-a fellow BC BMW rider
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:35 PM   #397
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Great News!

I ride a DR but great to hear the Island guys stepping up.
Ride safe - cya on the island someday.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:36 PM   #398
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Super news

they did the right thing in supporting your claim.

Party on


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Good news!
BMW Canada has stepped up and in particular Island BMW from Victoria.
We got an email today from them saying 'engine will be covered under goodwill warranty by BMW Canada'

I am sure they were well aware of the consequences of turning their backs on us. The ADV community's support surely helped.

Today has been a rollercoaster of a day. All the way down...all the way up.
We can't wait to get back on the road again .......... to bring you more stories and photos for your leisure.

Cheers fellow adventure riders
Alberto.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:52 PM   #399
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For your BMW Dealership
For BMW Germany
Now, wondering what BMW USA would of done or is BMW North America together with the US and Canada?
Anyway, so glad that a fix is on the way. Enjoying reading and seeing all the pictures of your trip. Thanks for all the work and time to share.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:04 PM   #400
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TWO THUMBS UP to your dealer!!

Hope they get you on the road soon, waiting for more pictures!
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:06 PM   #401
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Yep it says 91 Octane. This is still usual fuel. But i'm really sure if you ride trough south america it's about the same than to ride trough eastern europe. And in this case you must be prepared to drive fuel down to 75-80 Octane. And indeed it's true that all new "adventure bikes" suck because they are designed to drive with perfect fuel on a perfect highway. But it is possible to get these bikes adjusted to that bad fuel.
DR 650 is still carburated, just saying.
I feel for Alberto and Naomi and glad that you got a better outcome that had been said so far.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:13 PM   #402
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Alberto That is great news! Very happy to hear that Island BMW and BMW Canada stepped up. I am curious and with respect about technical stuff being posted here, has any suggestion been given to avoid the same problem Northbound?
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:31 PM   #403
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Great Work Island BMW Victoria

Hey guys Very happy for you. I think a lot of us were prepared to go to the wall over your treatment. Now that Island BMW and BMW Canada have shown some corporate integrity, I think their willingness to stand behind their product should be celebrated too. My bike is currently sitting in their shop getting new shocks and springs, and I have 100% faith in Brian and his crew in the back. Here's to more adventures.....
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:05 PM   #404
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Great news. Very happy for you guys!!.
Espero mas fotos. Buen viaje
Ride safe.
BMW Rocks!!!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:27 PM   #405
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Good news!
BMW Canada has stepped up and in particular Island BMW from Victoria.
We got an email today from them saying 'engine will be covered under goodwill warranty by BMW Canada'

I am sure they were well aware of the consequences of turning their backs on us. The ADV community's support surely helped.

Today has been a rollercoaster of a day. All the way down...all the way up.
We can't wait to get back on the road again .......... to bring you more stories and photos for your leisure.

Cheers fellow adventure riders
Alberto.
Well, colour me impressed. I didn't think they'd do it. That's cool beans for you guys.

Now, you just need a whole whack of parts Fedex'd.

In the meantime, just to keep this report rolling during the intermission, what are you guys gonna do while you're waiting?
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