ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Gear > Vendors
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-21-2011, 05:47 PM   #61
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
Tapp

RamMan - Yes, we went back to the drawing board to increase the power output significantly in an effort to make a unique product. Our electrical engineer finished assembling the first prototype PCBAs while we were at the Powersports Dealer Expo so they were ready for testing when we got home.

We're all trashed from long hours the working the show and traveling but we did get the first full load testing complete this afternoon. They run continuously at a full 3A. That's way beyond any USB device so we'll publish the specs at 2.2A or 2.5A for the iPAD users and still have plenty of margin. At some point we may look at a "Hydra-Cable" with more than one connector but we'll have to figure out how to make a weatherproof connection at each end without having it be a kluge.

We'll continue testing for a week or so with thermal profiling next on the test plan. When testing is complete we'll go out for pilot production build quotes and build. Bottom line, we should have product to market by mid-March.

I'll post some pics as soon as I get a chance.
-Don B
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 05:51 PM   #62
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
TAPP Lite with SAE 2-Pin

John - We had several requests for a TAPP Lite version with an SAE 2-pin plug. A 15" to 18" pigtail length seemed to work for most of the people but we want to get more input before we make a bunch of them. What length would work best for you?
-Don B
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 08:25 PM   #63
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 939
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shov3BR View Post
John - We had several requests for a TAPP Lite version with an SAE 2-pin plug. A 15" to 18" pigtail length seemed to work for most of the people but we want to get more input before we make a bunch of them. What length would work best for you?
-Don B
it'll be inside a tank bag. 6-8 inches would be plenty. SAE on 1 end, and 2-3 USB ports on the other side to charge phone, GoPro, or most any other device would be awesome.
__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT For Sale: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1019839
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 09:38 PM   #64
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
Wow, never thought of a "Hydra-TAPP". Great idea. What would be the preferred mounting method? Or since they are in the tank bag would there be any need for mounting the individual heads at all?
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 09:41 PM   #65
Low594
Adventuring Creep
 
Low594's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Oakland, CA
Oddometer: 1,129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shov3BR View Post
Wow, never thought of a "Hydra-TAPP". Great idea. What would be the preferred mounting method? Or since they are in the tank bag would there be any need for mounting the individual heads at all?
I would think that good industrial velcro type product would be a good way to go. More for locating the connection than anything else!
Low594 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 09:47 PM   #66
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 939
Here's the inside of my Wolfman Rainer tank bag.

__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT For Sale: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1019839
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2011, 11:33 PM   #67
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
This looks like something we can do. We won't be able to supply the slick molded "Y" but we can make it pretty tidy with adhesive line shrink tube crimped at the divisions. We stock 3M double grip fastener strip so that's no problem.

Two or three sockets - or both?
Since they won't require our universal mounting bracket which is our biggest expense, we should be able to offer these at an attractive price point.
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 03:12 AM   #68
bigalsmith101
Studly Adventurer
 
bigalsmith101's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Oddometer: 891
Do I understand this correctly?

Quote:
RamMan - Yes, we went back to the drawing board to increase the power output significantly in an effort to make a unique product.

They run continuously at a full 3A. That's way beyond any USB device so we'll publish the specs at 2.2A or 2.5A for the iPAD users and still have plenty of margin. At some point we may look at a "Hydra-Cable" with more than one connector but we'll have to figure out how to make a weatherproof connection at each end without having it be a kluge...
My ASUS 1000HA EEEPC charger outputs 12v @ 3A. What are the odds that you guys will make a power supply that has a DC connector:4.8x1.7MM

Cause THAT Would be awesome. If I could get a hold of the power supply unit, I could wire my own 4.8x1.7MM pin on it.

I suppose the cheapest option would be to run a cheapo inverter straight from the battery, and use my standard charger, but that takes up way more space!

--Alex
bigalsmith101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 06:22 AM   #69
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
Depending on the voltage range the ASUS 1000HA EEEPC would accept you may be able to run directly to battery. If the unit would accept a range of say 10VDC to 15VDC all you would need is a cable with the 4.8mm x 1.7mm barrel plug on the end and a fuse for safety.

My guess is that it will work within that range. Most electronic circuits today run 1.8VDC and 3.3VDC so they have internal regulators that will handle a wide voltage variation.

I looked at the ASUS website but didn't see in input voltage specs but you should be able to contact them to get that info. If it works out be sure to post the info; I'm sure there are lots of Inmates that would like to do the same thing. BTW the 4.8x1.7 plugs are readily avialable online.
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 09:56 AM   #70
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 939
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shov3BR View Post
This looks like something we can do. We won't be able to supply the slick molded "Y" but we can make it pretty tidy with adhesive line shrink tube crimped at the divisions. We stock 3M double grip fastener strip so that's no problem.

Two or three sockets - or both?
Since they won't require our universal mounting bracket which is our biggest expense, we should be able to offer these at an attractive price point.
3 would be awesome. I'd buy 2 (for 2 different bikes). It would be nice to have USB charging for iPhone, iPad, and 1 more device..either bluetooth or GoPro.
__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT For Sale: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1019839
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 12:04 PM   #71
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
You're on We are up to our eyeballs responding to stuff from the Dealer Expo but we should be able to build something up by the end of the week. I'll post some pics when we have something to sure it is what you have in mind.
-Don B
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #72
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 939
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shov3BR View Post
You're on We are up to our eyeballs responding to stuff from the Dealer Expo but we should be able to build something up by the end of the week. I'll post some pics when we have something to sure it is what you have in mind.
-Don B
__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT For Sale: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1019839
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 12:33 PM   #73
bigalsmith101
Studly Adventurer
 
bigalsmith101's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Oddometer: 891
Answer found on different forum

From a EEEPC specific forum,

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=81840&p=2

Check Post number 34, that is where the answer actually is.

Quote:
Asus just responded with plus or minus 10%, So the Eee PC should be alright up to 13.2 volts input volts DC.
Now, the OP of this thread I am referring to has mentioned over 15 hours of use while wired DIRECTLY to his vehicles' batteries ('96 Ford Ranger, and Mercedes S430). Granted these are cars, and I assume there voltage is regulated a bit more efficiently then my DR650.

However, I believe I am going to give this a shot. I don't know if it'll happen in the next month or so though. This is my only comp, and need to perform a pretty thorough back up before I run the risk of "bricking" it.

Of course an inline fuse, and permanent use of the computers battery will help smooth out any inefficiencies in voltage coming off my bikes alternator as well.

Also, while charging at 12A and 3A, I'll be pulling 36+ watts out of my close to 60 excess capacity. So I'll have to keep that in mind as well.
bigalsmith101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 01:23 PM   #74
Shov3BR OP
Tinkerer
 
Shov3BR's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Oddometer: 282
This is a tough one since your computer is at stake. Most switching regulators have a very wide voltage tolerance range. The one in our TAPP Lite goes all the way to 35VDC. My guess is that the ASUS 10% is a convenient and safe value and that the actual voltage range is more than that.

What mystifies me is why there are so many ASUS EEE PC car chargers out there if the computer would run on vehicle voltage. Maybe the EEE PC needs a cleaner signal than a vehicle charging system puts out. They can be pretty messy.

I'm going to talk to our electrical engineer to see if he can shed some light on this.
Shov3BR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2011, 11:34 AM   #75
bigalsmith101
Studly Adventurer
 
bigalsmith101's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Oddometer: 891
Hmm.

The thought has been mentioned, why not just play it safe and use the car adapter? From what I read, an Asus EEEPC will not be harmed if input voltage drops below 12V, even as low as 7.5V. The problem is when the Voltage increases significantly. I wonder how well the bike can regulate itself. Pretty soon, it (2007 Dr650) and I, will be headed south for 8+ months.Probably going to beat on it a bit.


--Alex
bigalsmith101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 03:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014