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Old 04-27-2011, 05:21 PM   #31
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Here you go. You can buy one today at your local Suzuki dealership:


I too have a K75. But unlike you, I love the looks of the current generation of naked standards - Bandits, Bonnevilles, Street Triple, I'd take any of them. Ironically, I really never cared for the looks of the old CBs.

But if it's (relatively) naked and has a fairly upright riding position it's a standard in my book. But the folks that like standards are probably outnumbered 100:1 by the cruiser and crotch rocket fans.

Edit: How about this for a modern standard?
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:27 PM   #32
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I'm 20.

I know there are naked bikes still. They are a completely different aesthetic.

This is the tuono. I don't see this as a "Naked Bike"



And this just looks weird:



Do people see this as looking nice?

I dont, I prefer the CB 750 or one of these two.
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:37 PM   #33
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The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think.



RoyQ's bike : DR650 thread


neutral and comfortable seating position: check
normal handlebars:check
without tons of plastic: check
visible engine: check
powerful engine: well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think.

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Old 04-27-2011, 06:13 PM   #34
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The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think.

well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think.

........shu
I'd agree you were on to something there in terms of ergos/stance/nakedness

but as you pointed out, I think the power (and delivery) would be woefully outmatched vs. most modern day standards

probably hangs fine with the modern retro bikes though
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:17 PM   #35
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probably hangs fine with the modern retro bikes though
It hangs fine with just about anything to about 85mph. Out-shines a large standard for urban riding.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:18 PM   #36
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Out-shines a large standard for urban riding.
I dunno, the brakes suck and tire selection is marginal. My EX650 was better in every way.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:20 PM   #37
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How about this, much more "standard" looking than others suggested.

MY NEXT BIKE!!! I love this thing and have been waiting for Harley to build it for 10 years....
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:29 PM   #38
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When I think standard, I think old English bikes, older sportsters, the UJM bikes, the w650, new Bonneville, the TU250.

A standard should be a bike that two people can jump on and go for a comfortable ride, with a real rear seat and pegs a normal size passenger can use for a few hours at least.

That style is still popular in other places, like Japan.
They get the cb400ss and other cool standards.

I have only ridden standards on the street since I started street riding 36 years ago.
Old Triumphs mostly, new Triumphs, Sportsters, tu250.
Old dual sports were standard bikes with a little more suspension...
I have dual sported standard street bikes, and rode standards all around the US, and never found I needed wind protection or a lot of plastic all over my bikes.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:33 PM   #39
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Old NJ Brett- gotta throw the TU250X in there! I guess it qualifies.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:42 PM   #40
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I dunno, the brakes suck and tire selection is marginal. My EX650 was better in every way.
Did you miss the word "large" ??? An EX650 is not what I would consider a large Standard. Even with that I find a thumper much better for urban assault.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:54 PM   #41
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Did you miss the word "large" ??? An EX650 is not what I would consider a large Standard. Even with that I find a thumper much better for urban assault.
What is 'large' these days?

Half the market is too fucking big for me to put up with.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:10 PM   #42
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MY NEXT BIKE!!! I love this thing and have been waiting for Harley to build it for 10 years....
Yep, have been serioulsy thinking about trading my Street Glide for one.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:11 PM   #43
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IMO large is 1000cc and up. Middle is in the 800cc range and 650's are on the lower mid-range.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:14 PM   #44
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Yep, have been serioulsy thinking about trading my Street Glide for one.

If you want to make a trip out of it let me know. I am at Latus in Gladstone (Portland) Oregon. I could set up your new XR with higher gearing (that is what I am going to do to mine) like my friend did to his.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:19 PM   #45
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IMO large is 1000cc and up. Middle is in the 800cc range and 650's are on the lower mid-range.
Part of me laments that manufacturers seem to be moving from 600/1000 platforms to 800/1200 platforms.

On the other hand, 800 was what I wanted in the first place...
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