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[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by outlaws justice

Sorry, but you have me confused with yourself. I do not go around breaking the law for no good reason. Even if I wanted to I cannot afford what goes along with that, and that is a ticket. Even if I only get caught once, that would be enough to disrupt my ability to make a living.

No matter how much you wag your finger, you know you speed. 5-10mph over is speeding even if you can do it all day without getting a ticket. You have passed on a double yellow, again no matter how much you deny it.

Originally Posted by outlaws justice

Can you even define Apex? Having an Apex does not mean it has to be in the other lane. On the street you treat your lane as the entire road, treat it as if you cross that double yellow in the turn that you have just left the road and are in the ditch. I ride my lines in such a manner, I still use my track technique in that I create a late entry point and in turn have a later apex so that as I exit any turn I have more room in my lane to make any necessary adjustments.

The Apex is where you or I say it is. You choose to treat the double yellow line as though it were the edge of pavement. Honestly 99% I do as well, but when the sight lines, camber, or tightness of curve let me decide to cross over, I don't hesitate and I don't see a problem with it.

Originally Posted by outlaws justice

Ya, "SEEMS like the right thing to do", to me it seems like becoming a better rider makes more sense than riding in the oncoming traffic.

I become a better rider every day. Practice Practice Practice.

If there is oncoming traffic, I'll be no where near that lane. I make the decision to cross and if I decide not to, there is never a problem staying to the right of the line.

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

The only time I would cross the double-yellow to pass would be in one of those "abnormal" circumstances where there is a slow-moving vehicle (backhoe) or some such, and I'm absolutely certain that engaging in the manoeuvre won't end up with me being an F150 hood ornament. I think that's an acceptable situation, because usually, the slow-moving vehicle will move over, effectively allowing a pass without using the oncoming lane.

Which is exactly the certainty that I make my decision with as well, and I think it's acceptable too.

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

Maybe my motivations are different. But it took me 25 years to find a woman that matches me in every conceivable fashion, and frankly, I think she deserves her husband coming home. *Probably* doesn't cut it.

Every time you step out the door it's probably. Motorcycles are a much more dangerous mode of transport than a car or a bus, but you have weighed the consequences and obviously think it's worth it.

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

Actually, if you troll through my posts, you'll find I'm pretty much a safety zealot. I dare you to find me a post on this board (or any other) where I say it's OK to violate the posted speed limit..

Right here.

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

(Basic common-sense passing of a slower-moving vehicle, in accordance to accepted passing protocols, notwithstanding.)

Speeding during a legal pass is still speeding. You'll even find a few threads around here with people gripping about getting a ticket while passing when they were otherwise going the speed limit.

Point being, you think breaking the law is OK for you as long as you feel you've met your "Basic Common-sense" criteria.

Originally Posted by Josephvman

It does seem like some have grouped making a safe pass on double-yellow along with using both sides of the road in cornering as the same thing, and though technically both are illegal it doesn't mean they're the same.

Never equated them as the same. The point made by one about crossing into the other lane...

...you're a self-centred git who has no sense of the law

So breaking some laws is OK, but not others. They've drawn an arbitrary line of lawlessness and think somehow that makes them OK, but not others. Slippery slope that one is.

[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by dirtybikefrank

Ladies, Ladies, your BOTH pretty.

Now, let s see some mmore pics of people who CANT ride.

You're...


...but that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day.

[Moving Pictures]

Originally Posted by Boon Booni

Speeding during a legal pass is still speeding. You'll even find a few threads around here with people gripping about getting a ticket while passing when they were otherwise going the speed limit.

If it's legal, it ain't illegal, is it?

You're reaching way far, here.

[outlaws justice]

Originally Posted by Boon Booni

You're...


...but that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day.

With an Ego like yours it's no wonder

[bwalsh]

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

If it's legal, it ain't illegal, is it?

You're reaching way far, here.

He meant speeding to pass in a legal passing zone...I KNOW you KNOW what he meant.

Why do so many people on this site nit-pit every little POS thing they can find? If I didn't know any better I'd think this was a riding site exclusively for lawyers...

Who's reaching way far?

[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

If it's legal, it ain't illegal, is it?

You're reaching way far, here.

Sorry, speeding while passing in a legal passing zone is still speeding. It's not a reach if you're getting the ticket.

[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by outlaws justice

With an Ego like yours it's no wonder

It's still early.

[DAKEZ]

Originally Posted by Boon Booni

Sorry, speeding while passing in a legal passing zone is still speeding. It's not a reach if you're getting the ticket.

In some (NOT all) States it is legal to speed when passing.

[cliffy109]

Would you people please take it to another forum. I was enjoying this topic until y'all started this pissing match. Take your gripes to Jo Mamma and STOP FUCKING POSTING IN THIS THREAD!!!!

[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by DAKEZ

In some (NOT all) States it is legal to speed when passing.

Got a list? I know for a fact it is in VA.


EDIT: A quick Google gets me at least Washington State. Wonder if there's a cap?

[*Gravy*]

Originally Posted by Boon Booni

Got a list? I know for a fact it is in VA.


EDIT: A quick Google gets me at least Washington State. Wonder if there's a cap?

Just passed here -MN- two years ago (if memory serves). Capped at 10 MPH.
Full details here

[outlaws justice]

Originally Posted by *Gravy*

Just passed here -MN- two years ago (if memory serves). Capped at 10 MPH.
Full details here

now that is nice to know, and on that line I will point out that does not make it legal to cross a double yellow (Even when there is no need.)

[uraberg]

According to a quick search, both vermont and pennsylvania allow crossing the double yellow in a pass, when it is safe to do so.

Minnesota, Montana and Washington allow drivers to exceed the speed limit while passing on two lane roads.

[outlaws justice]

Originally Posted by uraberg

According to a quick search, both vermont and pennsylvania allow crossing the double yellow in a pass, when it is safe to do so.

While passing, Nice to know that, since I ride in both states. It is also legal to pass on the right in New York when the vehicle ahead is turning left and you have room to safely do so.

Does it say anything about crossing the double yellow when you are not passing?

[DAKEZ]

Originally Posted by outlaws justice

Does it say anything about crossing the double yellow when you are not passing?

There are several states that allow crossing the double Yellow as well.