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Old 07-05-2011, 12:05 PM   #6976
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The XC that I test rode had the same stalling issue as shown in that video. Happened when I would twist the throttle fairly quickly like that. If I slowly twisted the throttle on it wouldn't stall. I figured an updated fuel map from the dealer would fix it, but maybe it's something else then?

I thought about the TPS being out of position so I made sure i gave it no gas when I fired it up. Still happened.
I've seen the same thing on mine (Arrow pipe and re-map) a couple of really random times. I ride two-strokes a lot and have a habit of quick blips if I'm idling around with the clutch in, doing a u-turn or whatever. My 800 doesn't like that and will die or almost die on occasion. Luckily, hasn't been an issue, just something I'm more aware of than anything else.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:42 PM   #6977
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YES!
I found that a second helmet of mine does have an effect - but does not solve things fully!

I'm going for a new screen... My only hope!

I think your misunderstanding, Head shake as in the handlebars. AKA Tankslap...
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:54 PM   #6978
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So here is my engine stalling story. I've not posted about this yet because I was giving Triumph the benefit of the doubt, hoping they could make this right. My patience has finally run out! This could get a little long, please bear with me. Got my Tiger 800 on a Tuesday in May. Headed out the following Friday with a group of friends for a long 4 day weekend and a trip to the mountains. On the first day while leaving a stop light, would give the bike some gas and it would just die. At first I thought I was just not used to the bike and needed more practice with a new bike. This happened several times and I new it was not me. We got a little rain shower and the group pulled into a parking lot to put on our rain gear. While sitting in the parking lot with the bike in neutral, twisted the throttle, engine dies. Definitely not me! Something is wrong here. Continued the ride for the weekend, loving the bike, loving the way it rides, handles, the motor, comfort, perfect bike for me, except for the stalling issue which persisted. Got home from the trip with about 600 miles on the bike. Took it in to the dealer for the first service the next weekend. Rode the bike to the dealer, had no stalling issues for that ride, about 50 miles. I had already let the dealer know about the stalling issue before then. Asked them to check it out. Was waiting at the shop for the first service to be complete when one of the workers there came to me and said, I need to give you the bad news about your bike. She said one of the technicians was test riding the bike after the service. Went to take off, the bike started to stall, then surged forward and the technician layed the bike down. Could not keep it under control. They ended up replacing the left side mirror, turning signal, clutch lever that was broken, bar end and ordered a new left side pannier to replace the one they had damaged. So here I am with a brand new bike, less than 1000 miles and had been wrecked. I am not happy! They tell me that they have downloaded the newest tune and that everything is fixed. No more stalling issues. I head out to the parking lot, start the bike up, put on my riding gear, pull the clutch in, give it some gas and the engine dies. I start the bike up again, leave it in neutral, give it some gas, the engine dies. I am not happy. At this point I've been at the dealer for over 3 hours. I tell them I am not riding this bike home, it needs to be fixed. They give me a Tiger 1050 as a loaner bike and I head home. The next week the owner of the dealership rides my 800 to where I work and drops it off. Apparently there was a new tune from Triumph they downloaded that fixed all the problems. I say great, thank you and head back into work. I leave work that evening and on my way home the bike stalls 4 more times! A 12 mile ride home, 4 stalls!!!! Stop at a stop light, the light turns green, I give the bike gas, the engine dies. Nothing has been fixed, I am not happy! When I finally made it home, took a video just to document the problem. Link below. Had to go out of town for work, when I got home, hauled the bike back to the dealership in the back of my truck. Two weeks later I get a call from the dealership. They say that I am welcome to come pick my bike up, but they have not fixed the problem. I say no! I will not pick the bike up until is fixed. They say Triumph is working on the problem, that it is a fuel mapping issue. There is not a fix at this time. The dealer has been in contact with Triumph North America and Triumph in the UK. There is no resolution, my bike can not be fixed. I am not happy. I have called the North American Triumph headquarters and spoken to customer service. They say they will get in touch with my dealer and work something out. The Tiger has now been at the dealership for over 3 weeks with no resolution. Most of the talk here has been about tunes and updates to fix stalling issues. I was told that my bike had a fuel mapping issue, but last week received an email from the dealer saying they are going to replace the throttle bodies, but of course, they have to order them from the UK. Not sure when the parts will be here. I am not happy! So, I have a bike that apparently can not be fixed. Customer service at Triumph North America is no longer returning my calls. What should I do? Legally, I can invoke the lemon law and get a new bike or full refund. I don't want to resort to that. Why will Triumph not do the right thing and just say we owe you a new motorcycle. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. What do I do now?

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Old 07-05-2011, 01:00 PM   #6979
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Question I haven't seen answered in the thread. Does this bike run on 87? Or does it need premium like the Beemer. And, what is the average range on a tank of gas? Thanks.[/QUOTE]


Its in here somewhere... yes bike runs on 87. Average range can depend on so much. Highway speeds you can expect 200+. My experience is that the fuel light comes on at about 200 miles. So you could go 250 give or take... Is that everyone elses experience at highway speeds?
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:34 PM   #6980
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My XC pulls to the right (when I let go of the bars).
This can quite often be attributed to the camber in the road.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:47 PM   #6981
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I'm 6'3 and ordered the 34" Tall. That might be the smallest waist they have.
Oh my. How I hate that. I have a 29 width and 34 inseam. Haven't found any riding pants that fit.

Will have go to Europe for shopping. Never had that much trouble there.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:12 PM   #6982
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This can quite often be attributed to the camber in the road.
I'm definitely not worried about it pulling to the right. You should never ride without holding onto the bars. After installing my throttle lock, I just wanted to see what would happen.
I have noticed a slight hop from the front end at about 40mph. I did have a few loose spokes & the rim is out of true. If I can't fix it myself, then I may have to take it to the dealer. It's not horrible, but it is annoying.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:18 PM   #6983
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This can quite often be attributed to the camber in the road.
I've tried it on numerous roads, in both tracks, same result. Did the same test on my Futura, not even a slight pull to the right. When I took care of a friend's BMW boxer, it did the same thing. On the XC, it's a gradual but strong pull that isn't easily countered with pressure on the opposite footpeg.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:24 PM   #6984
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My experience is that the fuel light comes on at about 200 miles.
My fuel light comes on at 175 miles every time. I refuel it at that point and it takes 3.5-3.7 gallons (US) full to the two bars in the filler neck. If I go close to the posted speed limit I average 49 mpg; if I push it a little I get 46 mpg. My daily commute is 115 miles round-trip, so I fill it up just about every day.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:27 PM   #6985
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Its in here somewhere... yes bike runs on 87. Average range can depend on so much. Highway speeds you can expect 200+. My experience is that the fuel light comes on at about 200 miles. So you could go 250 give or take... Is that everyone elses experience at highway speeds?
Not me. I get 42-43 mpg no matter how I ride. Light comes on at 170, takes 4 gallons, so max range is little over 200.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:41 PM   #6986
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Not me. I get 42-43 mpg no matter how I ride. Light comes on at 170, takes 4 gallons, so max range is little over 200.
Anything over two hundreds pretty good I think.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:33 PM   #6987
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Not me. I get 42-43 mpg no matter how I ride. Light comes on at 170, takes 4 gallons, so max range is little over 200.
That was my experience under 1K miles. Even got 38 mpg one tank. Since then it has been upped to 47 to 51, just under 2k miles now. I ride pretty sedately all the time so the difference is more due to wind direction. My last tank the low fuel lamp came on at 192 and she took 3.9 gallons. That is all the range I need in any riding situation I am likely to encounter. I am quite pleased with this motorcycle in every respect.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:52 PM   #6988
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I am quite pleased with this motorcycle in every respect.
Couldn't have said it better...
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:02 PM   #6989
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Got an answer from the dealer rep today. Triumph HQ says it's a software issue. They are aware of it and say they are in the process of fixing... sooo... i wait!
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So here is my engine stalling story. [...] While sitting in the parking lot with the bike in neutral, twisted the throttle, engine dies. Definitely not me! Something is wrong here. Continued the ride for the weekend, loving the bike, loving the way it rides, handles, the motor, comfort, perfect bike for me, except for the stalling issue which persisted. Got home from the trip with about 600 miles on the bike. Took it in to the dealer for the first service the next weekend. Rode the bike to the dealer, had no stalling issues for that ride, about 50 miles. I had already let the dealer know about the stalling issue before then. Asked them to check it out. Was waiting at the shop for the first service to be complete when one of the workers there came to me and said, I need to give you the bad news about your bike. She said one of the technicians was test riding the bike after the service. Went to take off, the bike started to stall, then surged forward and the technician layed the bike down. Could not keep it under control. They ended up replacing the left side mirror, turning signal, clutch lever that was broken, bar end and ordered a new left side pannier to replace the one they had damaged. So here I am with a brand new bike, less than 1000 miles and had been wrecked. I am not happy! They tell me that they have downloaded the newest tune and that everything is fixed. No more stalling issues. I head out to the parking lot, start the bike up, put on my riding gear, pull the clutch in, give it some gas and the engine dies. I start the bike up again, leave it in neutral, give it some gas, the engine dies. I am not happy. At this point I've been at the dealer for over 3 hours. I tell them I am not riding this bike home, it needs to be fixed. They give me a Tiger 1050 as a loaner bike and I head home. The next week the owner of the dealership rides my 800 to where I work and drops it off. Apparently there was a new tune from Triumph they downloaded that fixed all the problems. I say great, thank you and head back into work. I leave work that evening and on my way home the bike stalls 4 more times! A 12 mile ride home, 4 stalls!!!! Stop at a stop light, the light turns green, I give the bike gas, the engine dies. Nothing has been fixed, I am not happy! When I finally made it home, took a video just to document the problem. Link below. Had to go out of town for work, when I got home, hauled the bike back to the dealership in the back of my truck. Two weeks later I get a call from the dealership. They say that I am welcome to come pick my bike up, but they have not fixed the problem. I say no! I will not pick the bike up until is fixed. They say Triumph is working on the problem, that it is a fuel mapping issue. There is not a fix at this time. The dealer has been in contact with Triumph North America and Triumph in the UK. There is no resolution, my bike can not be fixed. I am not happy. I have called the North American Triumph headquarters and spoken to customer service. They say they will get in touch with my dealer and work something out. The Tiger has now been at the dealership for over 3 weeks with no resolution. Most of the talk here has been about tunes and updates to fix stalling issues. I was told that my bike had a fuel mapping issue, but last week received an email from the dealer saying they are going to replace the throttle bodies, but of course, they have to order them from the UK. Not sure when the parts will be here. I am not happy! So, I have a bike that apparently can not be fixed. Customer service at Triumph North America is no longer returning my calls. What should I do? Legally, I can invoke the lemon law and get a new bike or full refund. I don't want to resort to that. Why will Triumph not do the right thing and just say we owe you a new motorcycle. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. What do I do now?

http://s644.photobucket.com/albums/u...ent=110525.mp4
Any chance these two cases share same cause?

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Old 07-05-2011, 04:05 PM   #6990
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I think your misunderstanding, Head shake as in the handlebars. AKA Tankslap...
Under what circumstances you get the head shake?
What speed? Cross winds?
What tire and tire pressure
Unloaded bike? Loaded bike, rear shock set up?

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